Was Eden a true paradise?

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The_Vivian wrote: 02 Jul 2020, 15:31 I really do not understand the question but Eden is a true paradise as has been described. However if I get the above question correctly, it would be "shouldn't a murder be a mishap in the garden of Eden" and my answer to that would be the murder couldn't have taken place in the garden of Eden as Adam and Eve had already been thrown out even before they had children.

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Primetjay wrote: 14 Sep 2020, 04:27 It was a true Paradise and murder couldn't have taken place that's part of the reason Adam and Eve were kicked out so as to preserve the sanctity of the garden
No, they were sent out because they disobeyed God and ate from the fruit.
It had little to do with preserving the place.
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gelli_baranda wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 10:06 Eden has always been described as heaven on Earth. If it was, with all the good things there, shouldn't a murder a mishap in the so-called paradise?
The murder didn't happen in Eden but outside it after Adam and Eve had been exiled.
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I didn't quite get your question but I admit that Eden is a beautiful place.
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I don't think that Eden was paradise. Eden was full of traps; the tree, Lucifer and man was under evaluation in Eden. To me Eden didn't seem very permanent in that regard. It felt like man was there on condition that he passed the exam.
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fire_spice wrote: 23 May 2022, 14:37 I don't think that Eden was paradise. Eden was full of traps; the tree, Lucifer and man was under evaluation in Eden. To me Eden didn't seem very permanent in that regard. It felt like man was there on condition that he passed the exam.
It doesn't quite sound like paradise to me.
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Yeah, Eden is commonly referred to as heaven on earth, but the earth is not referred to as Eden. By implication, this means that Eden just occupied a portion on the earth. And Abel's murder didn't happen in Eden as Adam and Eve had already been expelled from the garden.
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The murder took place after Adam and Eve were sent out of the garden not while they're within the garden. To my belief Eden is a true paradise
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gelli_baranda wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 10:06 Eden has always been described as heaven on Earth. If it was, with all the good things there, shouldn't a murder a mishap in the so-called paradise?
I don't understand the question. But Eden did exist. Scientists have found evidence that Eden must have existed in Africa. Near the Nile😄 I am not so sure whether it's hundred percent true but I do know that Eden must have existed.
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Based on the description of the garden, I would say it was a paradise. That's why when they were cast out they began to experience pain.
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I don't understand the question but what ever it is, Eden was indeed heaven on Earth.
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Yeah Eden was indeed a paradise.
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I think it is because it was described perfectly, there was no clothing you could relate to animals and all that. It was mind-blowing.
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Yes, I think Eden was truly a paradise especially because the presence of God was so close as well and Adam and Eve before they sinned were well provided for.
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According to the way it is described in the Bible and in the book, Garden of Eden sounds like a paradise. I don't get your second question though.
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