Is Sex really necessary?

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The inclusion of sex (and particularly the pollen scene) felt as if the author was trying to cater to an audience expectation, rather than trying to advance the plot. For some books, gratuitous sex scenes do not deter from the story, but in this particular work it slowed things down and left a bad taste. It would have gone much more quickly without the sex scenes, and I think their inclusion was quite tangential and unnecessary.
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yosek123 wrote: 04 Jul 2020, 07:40 The inclusion of sex (and particularly the pollen scene) felt as if the author was trying to cater to an audience expectation, rather than trying to advance the plot. For some books, gratuitous sex scenes do not deter from the story, but in this particular work it slowed things down and left a bad taste. It would have gone much more quickly without the sex scenes, and I think their inclusion was quite tangential and unnecessary.
Those scenes making the plot slow inevitability makes them unnecessary to the plot
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Well, I think the sex was part of the many ways the author tried making the book engaging even though some readers may not like that part. But then, the author also used that to express that sex is part of a basic human nature, it just happens.
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Edwin Amah wrote: 04 Jul 2020, 11:54 Well, I think the sex was part of the many ways the author tried making the book engaging even though some readers may not like that part. But then, the author also used that to express that sex is part of a basic human nature, it just happens.
Maybe the exhaustion made Grant to do so
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I don't think it's a question of it being necessary to the plot. If it were about necessity, we probably would have read more about the angst that it caused (like infighting amongst expedition members). I do, however, think it was pretty realistic. People talk about how people find time for sex even on harrowing deployments with the military. I think the author could have capitalized more on the divisiveness that all of the sex could have caused to supplement the insurrection bit, but I am not wholly opposed to its inclusion in the story.
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At times sex scenes can be utilized to enhance the storyline or speak to the character development or a character's truth. In that sense, I feel it can be used to better understand human behavior in books. However, in this particular book while I understand the author utilized it in a certain way to add to the story it wasn't successful. It did not add depth to the storyline but rather caused a distraction for the reader. Also, the sex scenes being so explicit added to the slow pace of the book in certain parts. I feel that in this case those scenes could have been removed and not detracted from the storyline too much. However, I respect the author must have thought it was important to the plot.
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shynmr wrote: 04 Jul 2020, 21:47 I don't think it's a question of it being necessary to the plot. If it were about necessity, we probably would have read more about the angst that it caused (like infighting amongst expedition members). I do, however, think it was pretty realistic. People talk about how people find time for sex even on harrowing deployments with the military. I think the author could have capitalized more on the divisiveness that all of the sex could have caused to supplement the insurrection bit, but I am not wholly opposed to its inclusion in the story.
Author's inclusion of the content can be rationalized in many ways, and finally its one's personal preference
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JustineSophia2 wrote: 04 Jul 2020, 23:01 At times sex scenes can be utilized to enhance the storyline or speak to the character development or a character's truth. In that sense, I feel it can be used to better understand human behavior in books. However, in this particular book while I understand the author utilized it in a certain way to add to the story it wasn't successful. It did not add depth to the storyline but rather caused a distraction for the reader. Also, the sex scenes being so explicit added to the slow pace of the book in certain parts. I feel that in this case those scenes could have been removed and not detracted from the storyline too much. However, I respect the author must have thought it was important to the plot.
Any scene that distracts the reader or makes the plot dragging is really unnecessary for a story
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Topsey wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:19 Although I agree that sex is not necessarily important for books to include, I don’t think the inclusion here is out of place. I think it demonstrates how one can still be deterred by our more baser/natural instinct, regardless of the various tasks at hand.
I agree with you on that. It portrays how our natural instincts can play their roles even in the busiest of tasks.
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book_fanatic_ wrote: 05 Jul 2020, 03:45
Topsey wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:19 Although I agree that sex is not necessarily important for books to include, I don’t think the inclusion here is out of place. I think it demonstrates how one can still be deterred by our more baser/natural instinct, regardless of the various tasks at hand.
I agree with you on that. It portrays how our natural instincts can play their roles even in the busiest of tasks.
Anyone can be overcome by his/her natural desires in any situation
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I do not believe that sexual intimacy is necessary in this particular work of science fiction. Moreover, I firmly believe that it detracts from the narrative or the author's writing style.
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I don't believe sexual elements were really necessary. However, it was not out of context either. It's a natural phenomenon.
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GiselleBengochea wrote: 05 Jul 2020, 11:23 I do not believe that sexual intimacy is necessary in this particular work of science fiction. Moreover, I firmly believe that it detracts from the narrative or the author's writing style.
There can be occasions even sci-fi fantasies are being suitable for inclusion of such content
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Salma_asa wrote: 05 Jul 2020, 11:55 I don't believe sexual elements were really necessary. However, it was not out of context either. It's a natural phenomenon.
It is natural, but a bit unnatural for the book
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Good question. Sex is not necessary for a story to be enjoyable. I think some authors have adopted the trait because they believe majority will be drawn to read the book. But what I know, with or without inclusion of sex scenes, a good story will sell.
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