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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: ↑11 Aug 2020, 05:15 Howlan wrote:
> Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > Banette wrote:
> > > Given that virtual reality therapy uses the same principles as exposure
> > > therapy, which was mentioned earlier, I think it definitely falls within
> > > the principles of the book. The only difference in VR therapy and
> > > "real" exposure therapy is that the situation is much more
> > > controlled, and it can be less threatening for some. I think the idea of a
> > > natural remedy in the case of this book simply means that it is an
> > > alternative solution to medication.
> > >
> > > I'd actually really like to try it since I do have mild social anxiety,
> > > which definitely isn't anything bad enough to medicate, and I'd heard that
> > > a lot of people were able to use VRChat, and similar games, to help
> > > acclimate them to speaking with people in real life.
> >
> > As you stated, VR is a controlled environment. The intensity or environment
> > replication can be heightened or reduced to suit the preferences of the user.
> It's a
> > very workable solution. You should consider trying it out.
>
> Yes, a great advantage of living in this day and age is that you can simulate almost
> any action. The VR is no different. It can stimulate any social interaction and you
> can definitely benefit from this.

As VR keeps changing, more options to customize experiences as per the needs of the user will help with issues of anxiety and stress. A doctor can recommend a certain procedure as part of therapy, which can be programmed to a VR environment and fit their patient.

Lunastella wrote: ↑26 Aug 2020, 12:42 I think it's natural in the sense that it's not pharmacological, but it is, of course, a man-made invention. On the plus side, it's been proven to be a great tool to treat PTSD, as far as I know. Perhaps, it should have been included as an appendix to make the book seem more coherent.

lwahls2 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2020, 21:17 To your point, virtual reality is definitely not a "natural remedy" so at the surface it's definitely contrary to the core message of the book.

Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: ↑31 Aug 2020, 07:39

lwahls2 wrote: ↑13 Aug 2020, 21:17 To your point, virtual reality is definitely not a "natural remedy" so at the surface it's definitely contrary to the core message of the book.

To correct your point, VR is not given as a natural option for it being organic. No, its viewed as so because it does not involve taking medication.

Howlan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2020, 05:36 Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> rahilshajahan wrote:
> > Dominik_G wrote:
> > > I understand why you propose this question. However, I believe the authors
> > > use "natural" as in "non-medical", and so Virtual
> > > Reality has a right to make their list of possible remedies, in my opinion.
> >
> > I can't agree with you more. The author didn't mean to say VR technology is
> natural,
> > but rather a non-medical means of remedy.
>
> I feel hopeful that VR will revolutionize the struggle people go through with
> anxiety. If it can be used to replace medication, then I would advocate for it.

I do not think that VR can replace medication, as stress has some chemical effects on our body and certain medication can be used to lower down the hormones. But it has a revolutionary role to play for calming the nerves and concentration.

Howlan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2020, 05:38 Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> cookiedough wrote:
> > I see your point but VR isn't the same as medication. The author suggest
> > natural remedies and VR is a man-made solution that could help those with
> > phobias. It's also fun to interact with VR in general. I was able to go to
> > space and dive deep into the ocean with it, which I found to be an
> > adventure.
>
> Even though VR is manmade, I believe it can be categorized as a natural remedy
> because it can be used in place of medication.

It is debatable whether VR can be considered as a natural remedy or not. It cannot replace medication anytime soon. On the other hand natural remedy also cannot replace medication. Medication is complementary to any Natural remedy.

Howlan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2020, 05:42 Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Astrolorraine wrote:
> > That's a good point! I guess it depends on how you define natural. In a
> > technology vs nature view, VR is not natural. If you think of it as
> > physical experience vs chemical treatment (pills etc), then VR can be
> > considered natural.
>
> You distinguished the two harmoniously. Since VR is a human invention, it can be
> confusing to think of it differently. But Kinrys explains what natural remedies are
> and hence makes it easier for the reader to make clear judgments.

I think VR is definitely a great way to reduce anxiety but it is not natural, as as it is dependant on technology and also because I think it has some side effects like a strain on the sensory organs and while some natural remedies have side effects VR outweighs them if used frequently and without supervision.

Howlan wrote: ↑13 Aug 2020, 05:44 Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > Star_and_Buck wrote:
> > > VR is not a remedy or a solution to anyone's problems but is an escape. For
> > > anyone suffering through anxiety it is an imagionary world where he or she
> > > dreams just where he wants to be or whag he likes to be disrrgarding the
> > > current situations.
> >
> > Yes, and that temporary reprive is what helps us cam our mind and get back our
> > concentration. Similar to a timeout in a busy match to bring back the momentum,
> > sometimes an escape is required to bring us back on our feet.
>
> I've experienced moments of stress and a bit of anxiety, disconnecting for a while
> helps to minimize the levels. VR games have been my runaway choice sometimes. It
> doesn't fix the problem right away, but it helps to keep my mind occupied.

Any game does that for you not only VR games. If a properly built game is interesting enough to hook you into it, it will definitely occupy your mind.