Natural options can substitute medicaments totally?

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Kansas City Teacher wrote:
> I have thought about this a lot. It sounds great - natural remedies, less
> side effects, etc. There is no shortage of stories on the people who beat
> cancer, those who conquer heart disease, and the ADHD that has disappeared.
> However, when it is you facing a crisis, or your child, would you want to
> take that chance? Or believe in hard science?

To answer your question, I would not call it taking chances if I chose the natural ways. I would only turn to medicine if it was ultimately necessary.
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Mys_Trea wrote:
> I agree that both options complement each other, and are not mutually
> exclusive. Personal preference is also a defining factor of what will work
> best.
Indeed, understanding which remedy you need to suit your current needs is crucial in the process of dealing with stress and anxiety.
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Alexander6117 wrote:
> I think it really depends on the individual’s personal situation. Some
> people with mild or moderate stress/anxiety can absolutely benefit from the
> natural methods described in the book and may never need pharmacological
> intervention. However, those medications were made for a reason and may
> often be necessary for those with more severe stress/anxiety. I think using
> both natural methods and medication would be ideal for those situations.
> And of course, they should be monitored by a medical professional who can
> best assess how that person responds to various types of treatment to find
> out what will best improve their quality of life.

Although we may presume natural remedies are meant for mild cases, I think our attitude also influences what we choose between medication and a natural remedy. Some subjects may see medication as a burden. Others may take natural remedies to be overwhelming.
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marcie_sheeraw wrote:
> i believe natural and medication can be complimented to each other to
> create a perfect balance... but also the cause of the stress is a great
> determinant on which method is best
I'm wondering, could there be a remedy given by Gustavo that reduces anxiety but not stress?
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NDeMeer wrote:
> I feel like this is an incredibly complicated question, which researchers
> may never fully figure out. Especially because every body works slightly
> differently; something that works for one person might not work for
> another. I do believe that some of the above commenters make a good point
> though, that it depends, at least in part, on the amount and type of
> stress. For the more 'standard' stress, these natural options might work
> like a charm, while for the more serious and deeper issues, medication and
> other treatments might be necessary. Indeed, they are very much
> complimentary. Thanks for the thoughtful question!
I think medication cannot be compared to natural remedies because we don't have a baseline for both. For instance, we have people whose immune systems are down, they may feed on the right natural foods, but their digestive systems may not be able to acquire nutrients effectively. If that's the case, they are given medication in the form of supplements. When it comes to stress and anxiety, every individual will give an opinion of what works for them.
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Elvis Best wrote:
> I also believe natural options and medication are complementary to each
> other. Using both options in a holistic manner, for me, is the best way.

Yes, indeed, the natural relief the author talks about in the book has to be used with medication in more severe situations.
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cookiedough wrote:
> Some ingredients of modern medication comes from natural ingredients. If
> you can find a natural remedy to your problem, that's great. For some
> people, medication works wonders, for others natural remedies work. It
> depends on the situation, person, and other factors.

There are a lot of factors that can interfere in the use of natural or traditional medication. In some cases, there's need of a doctor too, but sometimes, books like this one can give tips to help to reduce stress.
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tjportugal wrote:
> It depends on the cause of the stress. For instance, a student dealing with
> the stress of exam season is different from a person dealing with the
> stress involved with PTSD. Having studied Pharmaceutical Sciences, I would
> recommend sports and music for students (I would strongly discourage
> medication); as for someone with PTSD, some medication might be needed
> (especially to help regulate sleeping patterns).

Those are indeed very different situations. I agree that the author's advice of using music and sports really works. But using both of them, in my opinion, is the best way. But with the indication of a doctor of course too.
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B Creech wrote:
> I think if the natural approach is utilized early enough it can be the only
> treatment one needs. I would say you have to already be someone who
> practices meditation and natural ways of dealing with life. One can't wait
> until they are carrying so much stress they are overwhelmed to learn to
> apply meditation and other natural methods to their coping skills!
> Sometimes things can get so stressful we have to have medicinal help to
> cope with the anxiety.

Maybe the use of natural treatment in earlier stages can really help, I didn't think about that aspect. But I think that sometimes, even when using the natural reliefs the author talks about, it's necessary to look for the opinion of a doctor or even more than one if necessary.
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The situation is different in each case, and so is the level of stress and immunity.
I think first one must try the natural remedies, but if the problem persists, it is better to switch to medication rather than to be in a worse situation.
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I don't think it would be wise to replace "traditional" medicine. Instead, they should complement each other. Safe, alternative and natural medicines must definitely be the first option but not the only option.
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gabrielletiemi wrote: 01 Aug 2020, 14:16 The author talks about a lot of methods to help with stress and anxiety, for example, meditation and yoga, which are indeed helpful in dealing with those issues. In my opinion, nowadays, the natural options don't substitute traditional medicine, I think they are complementary to each other.
That has been my experience. I do yoga, I walk outside, and I do mindfulness meditation. However, if I lack energy, I can't do those things. If I lack energy, I am also more likely to eat unhealthy food. My PTSD causes me to have sleep interruptions at night, and bad dreams, that are controlled by medication. Before I was on Trazodone, I would wake up several times a night and get very poor sleep. By allowing me to get a good night's rest, the medication enables me to take other steps to improve my mental health, that I'd normally be too tired to do. My Wellbutrin that I take each morning also helps me control my depression symptoms enough that I can be more productive and form healthier choices.

That's why I agree that medication and non-medicinal therapies are complementary, they work together. I had tried many, many times to build healthy habits and become more productive without medicine, but I definitely needed medications to facilitate my changes.
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Anxiety is characterized by significant feelings of worry and fear. In other words, Anxiety is a worry about future events, while fear is a reaction to current events.

I know the above information sounds out of line with your question:

"do you think those natural methods can substitute the traditional and conventional use of medicaments? "

Well, some how the statement answers your questions. What i mean to say is that; Anxiety is a feeling generated by thoughts resulting into intense worry and fear. Which means medications can only subside the feelings for a while but can not heal the thoughts.

Some of the methods elaborated in this book are actually behavioral changing which can result into thought changing which can further manipulate one's way of thinking and can result into cure of the disorder.

Almost all Medications comes with side effects but the natural methods do not, so for me, the natural methods are a wine over medications! and if people can only understand that, then definitely the medications will be substituted.
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I agree with your opinion. Natural remedies can help everyone, but some people still need conventional medicine and that is absolutely fine too! I personally take anti-depressants and have noticed a huge difference in my life because of them.
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Much as I would like to, I cannot advise complete replacement as each case is different and it's important that you'reassessed by a professional. However, these techniques can definitely be used as complementary asthey support conventional approaches and often mitigate unwanted side-effects of conventional medication.
Of all of them, I have found breathing and relaxation techniques to be most useful as, once you've learned them, they're always with you and can be applied immediately when necessary.
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