Anxiety and stigmatization are they related?

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djr6090 wrote:
> It is not weak to ask for help. What others think is not as important as
> what relief is needed. And, I think, everyone can benefit from moral
> support.

I agree, there's no weaknesses in trying to find a solution to your problems. In fact, it's a display of selfawareness and boldness when you choose to deal with your stress and anxiety in the appropriate way.
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Dear Nerea, stigmatization and anxiety are relative.
Whenever someone is depressed, the person tends to become anxious, this is the real causative factor for anxiety.

In a situation an individual tends to start becoming indifferent, the victim's attitude towards the normal person becomes repulsive and this brings about stigmatization.The victim gets avoided most times. Seldomly do they get the attention that they are in dire need of.
I've been there.
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Anxiety and stigma are definitely related. I see many comments I agree with above, but can relate most with the ones alluding to how un-masculine demonstrated anxiety is. To stretch the point, anything associated with infirm mental health is frowned upon all around me.
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My fathers suffered from anxiety and depression most of his life. This was before the miracle drugs and mood stabilizers were available. I can tell you that stigmatization applied, not just to him, but to all of our family. My Aunts and Uncles avoided our entire family. Dad's reaction was to reject any attempt at intervention, which increased the isolation, etc. Thus a vicious cycle began. Anxiety ramped on top of anxiety. Yes, I believe Anxiety and Stigmatization are related, they still exist to some degree, and they still function in a vicious cycle.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> After sharing my thoughts with a few friends about stigmatization and
> anxiety, I discovered that Gustavo addresses this issue. As an example, if
> you were stigmatized for any reason, you'd get stressed and anxious.
> Conversely, if you were anxious about whether you'll face stigmatization,
> you'd get stressed. This means that the two are intertwined.

It depends if you are stressful, you may or may not be stigmatized by it. Many people express their stress by lashing out at others. It depends on the person and the sitution in which stress builds up.
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mpsmaster wrote:
> I think that depends. Some people are like bombs: they keep everything for
> themselves until they explode. This ones could have good relationships with
> others until the worst happen and people around don't understand and
> stigmatization could take place.
>
> Others say what they feel without care or second though, sometimes hurting
> everybody around like a machine gun. Not everybody put up with this, they
> can be isolated for sure.
>
> I maybe wrong, but tell the truth seems a good way: if you are about to
> explode about something you say so and release, and explain why you
> explode, apologise if is necessary. Truth about you humanity and frailty,
> if sincere, can do miracles.

Yes, many people have a problem in expressing themselves. Some lucky one might have people the trust ina and are comfortable sharing their thoughts but many don't have such a luxury in which others can take care of them so it is definitely complicated for them.
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Sou Hi wrote:
> I think anxiety is part of the reason, but it depends. Like someone who is
> bullied will have two choices: To brace themselves and overcome the
> bullies, or to be stressed out over time and slowly think of themselves as
> worthless, like how the bullies label them. So I suppose it's important to
> have someone you can talk to. That way it will ease your heart and prevent
> further pressure.

Yeah, definitely having a person who is going to listen o your problems without judging them is a great boon to have. It takes a great load off the shoulder of the person and helps in gaing constructive thoughts and plays a important factor to prevet stress from getting piled up.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Sgpope01 wrote:
> > I think it can be several things. I think people believe that we are
> > supposed to be living in this high stress world and not understanding when
> > it has become a dangerous disorder. I also believe there is a stigma around
> > it. From my own experience, I was embarrassed to come out about my anxiety
> > and depression. I didn’t want to seem weak or out of control. I would lie
> > on the tests my general doctor would give me yearly about
> > depression/anxiety. I wanted everyone to believe I was “ok”. Society can
> > look down on mental health and that was ingrained in me at an early age. I
> > believe there is definitely stigma for some people.
>
> So true, the first step to eliminating stress and anxiety is acceptance. After which
> the thought of being stigmatized for your condition is eliminated.

Yes, but there are different types of acceptance. You may accept that you have a problem but it does not necessarily mean that you are ready to receive treatment. Some believe that many treatments do not work best for them and many believe cannot particularly trust others. So it is a difficult situation.
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Susmita Biswas wrote:
> I agree with the author that people often don't know that they have this
> problem. I think they should understand it first that they are suffering
> from anxiety. The author provided all the small signs. People should keep
> them in mind.

Yes, once you start neglecting things it can be ugly in the wrong run. What is required in these cases is awareness. Someone must be able to make you aware of the things going on and guide you in the proper way.
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gatuguta2030 wrote:
> Yes. Anxiety is stigmatized. Society plays a big role in stigmatizing
> people suffering from stress and anxiety. This makes people not to open up
> on what they are experiencing.

Yes and if this keeps on accumulating the person may suffer from not only serious anxiety-related issues but they would also lose confidence in themselves or what they are. So a major answer to this problem is in a word this book. it will help see the problem and solutions and of the numerous methods mentioned one must be effective.
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Katie Canedy wrote:
> I believe that this is entirely possible. Anxiety and stigmatization are
> both different, but they tend to work together when it comes to personal
> belief in one's portrayal of themselves.

Yes definitely. Stigmatization can deeply effect the mindset of one person and increase their stress levels. Your current midset can be a breedingground for stress if you have ahuge stigma about it.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Star_and_Buck wrote:
> > I think that both are related. A person suffering from anxiety is also
> > stigmatized. I can say this because I have suffered the similar
> > sircumstances in my life.
>
> At times the reason for stigmatization might not be the anxiety. In agreement with
> your comment, the anxiety can be used as an opportunity by others to stigmatize the
> affected person.

Yes true. Stigmatization is not a reason for anxiety but its presence can be harmful to the person's stress levels. Living in constant denial and facing discrimination can increase your stress level and harm your mental state.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Katie Canedy wrote:
> > I believe that this is entirely possible. Anxiety and stigmatization are
> > both different, but they tend to work together when it comes to personal
> > belief in one's portrayal of themselves.
>
> Does it mean that whether someone would face stigmatization can be determined by the
> way they portray themselves?

It depends on the mindset of the individual. A negative way to view a person can definitely be affected by the way a person carries themselves. In our current society which really licks their tongue at an opportunity to lash out against others, it is definitely possible to face stigma if you actually do not mean any harm.
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There may be different reasons as to why a person may not seek early treatment. It may be that they are completely unaware of the situation or they may be aware and have just decided to brush it off as part of an everyday ordeal or they may fear stigmatization from their peers in case of men.
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Anxiety and stigmatization are two different situations, which could be interwoven. Some cases of anxiety, leads the sufferer into a state of alienation from people (especially persons who are unwilling to open up to others) and stigmatization too.
While some cases don't lead to stigmatization, hence, it's a two faced scenario.
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