Anxiety and stigmatization are they related?

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Yes the two are related. Anxiety is very misunderstood which leads to guys acting from an ignorant place, hence stigmatization of the persons auffering from it.
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evraealtana wrote:
> I think that is likely part of it. Another part of it may be that people
> are stressed for so long that anxiety starts to feel normal, and therefore
> they never think that maybe their "normal" isn't actually normal
> after all. Maybe getting help is the silver lining after a breakdown
> following years of accumulated stress, during which time the patient didn't
> realize the load was getting slightly heavier with every passing day.
>
> It reminds me of the parable about the frog that went swimming in a cooking
> pot full of cool water. When the stove was lit, the fire warmed slowly
> enough that the frog didn't notice the changing temperature. Over time, the
> water got hotter and hotter without the frog being aware of it, until at
> last the frog was cooked.

I absolutely agree with you. People who have suffered from anxiety regardless of how severe it is. for a long period of time naturalize and internalize these negative emotions as something that they will always feel. As it anxiety was not a problem but a personality trait. It is true that some people have a tendency to be more anxious or in the look out for certain things. However, there are several mental disorders that are frown upon and considered just phases that people go through.
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Aaron Ambers wrote:
> Anxiety and stigmatization are two different situations, which could be
> interwoven. Some cases of anxiety, leads the sufferer into a state of
> alienation from people (especially persons who are unwilling to open up to
> others) and stigmatization too.
> While some cases don't lead to stigmatization, hence, it's a two faced
> scenario.

Yep it depends on the type of person involves. Every bidy is anxious at some time in their life, but it does not lead to stigmatization. It is only when it affects you in a negative way, you can be affected my stigma.
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Ana Victoria2002 wrote:
> evraealtana wrote:
> > I think that is likely part of it. Another part of it may be that people
> > are stressed for so long that anxiety starts to feel normal, and therefore
> > they never think that maybe their "normal" isn't actually normal
> > after all. Maybe getting help is the silver lining after a breakdown
> > following years of accumulated stress, during which time the patient didn't
> > realize the load was getting slightly heavier with every passing day.
> >
> > It reminds me of the parable about the frog that went swimming in a cooking
> > pot full of cool water. When the stove was lit, the fire warmed slowly
> > enough that the frog didn't notice the changing temperature. Over time, the
> > water got hotter and hotter without the frog being aware of it, until at
> > last the frog was cooked.
>
> I absolutely agree with you. People who have suffered from anxiety regardless of how
> severe it is. for a long period of time naturalize and internalize these negative
> emotions as something that they will always feel. As it anxiety was not a problem but
> a personality trait. It is true that some people have a tendency to be more anxious
> or in the look out for certain things. However, there are several mental disorders
> that are frown upon and considered just phases that people go through.

Yes, mental disorders can be connected to stigma but not anxiety. It is when the person, becomes stigmatized depends on the situation he is in. If he becomes aloof and lashes out at others, I can totally see stigmatization taking place.
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I think stigmatization is part of the reason people can suffer with anxiety before seeking help. Where I am from, a lot of people view anxiety as a major weakness or flaw in someone. Therefore, it is kind of taboo to speak of it. For this reason, I can agree with others who mentioned many people may not know what anxiety truly is or understand they suffer from it. I feel because of the stigma, there is often lack of discussion of anxiety leading to lack of understanding and knowledge.
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I think one of the closest after effect of anxiety disorder is stigmatization. Not everybody likes to come out open to talk about their anxiety. Some take it has having an incurable diseases.
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Ebube_ wrote:
> Dear Nerea, stigmatization and anxiety are relative.
> Whenever someone is depressed, the person tends to become anxious, this is
> the real causative factor for anxiety.
>
> In a situation an individual tends to start becoming indifferent, the
> victim's attitude towards the normal person becomes repulsive and this
> brings about stigmatization.The victim gets avoided most times. Seldomly do
> they get the attention that they are in dire need of.
> I've been there.

You stated it better. As an individual tries to cope up with their stress and anxiety, the change in attitude may be seen by some as a reason to stigmatize them. I believe this book will help us to change our outlook on those that are affected by these conditions.
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DavidOchieng wrote:
> Anxiety and stigma are definitely related. I see many comments I agree with
> above, but can relate most with the ones alluding to how un-masculine
> demonstrated anxiety is. To stretch the point, anything associated with
> infirm mental health is frowned upon all around me.

Unfortunately, the issue of mental health has been underrated in our societies. This book has come at the right timing when stigmatization to those affected is at an all-time high.
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djr6090 wrote:
> My fathers suffered from anxiety and depression most of his life. This was
> before the miracle drugs and mood stabilizers were available. I can tell
> you that stigmatization applied, not just to him, but to all of our family.
> My Aunts and Uncles avoided our entire family. Dad's reaction was to
> reject any attempt at intervention, which increased the isolation, etc.
> Thus a vicious cycle began. Anxiety ramped on top of anxiety. Yes, I
> believe Anxiety and Stigmatization are related, they still exist to some
> degree, and they still function in a vicious cycle.

It's true this issue is still growing. It's sad to comprehend how stigmatization affects the families of individuals suffering from stress and anxiety. Natural remedies should always be tried first before medication is sort. This way, the early stages of the conditions can be eliminated.
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Howlan wrote:
> Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > After sharing my thoughts with a few friends about stigmatization and
> > anxiety, I discovered that Gustavo addresses this issue. As an example, if
> > you were stigmatized for any reason, you'd get stressed and anxious.
> > Conversely, if you were anxious about whether you'll face stigmatization,
> > you'd get stressed. This means that the two are intertwined.
>
> It depends if you are stressful, you may or may not be stigmatized by it. Many people
> express their stress by lashing out at others. It depends on the person and the
> sitution in which stress builds up.

Stigmatization mostly comes up when a person is trying to find help. Their behaviors may influence others to treat them differently.
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Howlan wrote:
> Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > Sgpope01 wrote:
> > > I think it can be several things. I think people believe that we are
> > > supposed to be living in this high stress world and not understanding when
> > > it has become a dangerous disorder. I also believe there is a stigma around
> > > it. From my own experience, I was embarrassed to come out about my anxiety
> > > and depression. I didn’t want to seem weak or out of control. I would lie
> > > on the tests my general doctor would give me yearly about
> > > depression/anxiety. I wanted everyone to believe I was “ok”. Society can
> > > look down on mental health and that was ingrained in me at an early age. I
> > > believe there is definitely stigma for some people.
> >
> > So true, the first step to eliminating stress and anxiety is acceptance. After
> which
> > the thought of being stigmatized for your condition is eliminated.
>
> Yes, but there are different types of acceptance. You may accept that you have a
> problem but it does not necessarily mean that you are ready to receive treatment.
> Some believe that many treatments do not work best for them and many believe cannot
> particularly trust others. So it is a difficult situation.

It's easier going through stressful moments when you can talk about them. The other stressful part comes in while trying to find a confidant. It is for this reason that books are more comforting.
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Howlan wrote:
> Sou Hi wrote:
> > I think anxiety is part of the reason, but it depends. Like someone who is
> > bullied will have two choices: To brace themselves and overcome the
> > bullies, or to be stressed out over time and slowly think of themselves as
> > worthless, like how the bullies label them. So I suppose it's important to
> > have someone you can talk to. That way it will ease your heart and prevent
> > further pressure.
>
> Yeah, definitely having a person who is going to listen o your problems without
> judging them is a great boon to have. It takes a great load off the shoulder of the
> person and helps in gaing constructive thoughts and plays a important factor to
> prevet stress from getting piled up.

Self-worth plays a big role in how we respect ourselves. Someone who carries themselves highly is comparatively bold and able to cope with stigmatization at certain levels.
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Howlan wrote:
> Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > Sgpope01 wrote:
> > > I think it can be several things. I think people believe that we are
> > > supposed to be living in this high stress world and not understanding when
> > > it has become a dangerous disorder. I also believe there is a stigma around
> > > it. From my own experience, I was embarrassed to come out about my anxiety
> > > and depression. I didn’t want to seem weak or out of control. I would lie
> > > on the tests my general doctor would give me yearly about
> > > depression/anxiety. I wanted everyone to believe I was “ok”. Society can
> > > look down on mental health and that was ingrained in me at an early age. I
> > > believe there is definitely stigma for some people.
> >
> > So true, the first step to eliminating stress and anxiety is acceptance. After
> which
> > the thought of being stigmatized for your condition is eliminated.
>
> Yes, but there are different types of acceptance. You may accept that you have a
> problem but it does not necessarily mean that you are ready to receive treatment.
> Some believe that many treatments do not work best for them and many believe cannot
> particularly trust others. So it is a difficult situation.

I think the reason Kinrys insists on trying natural methods first, is because of these difficulties. You become more aware of your emotions and weaknesses as you spend time in nature. Eventually, you'll admit there's a problem when it arises. To avoid stigmatization, your attitude can be a source of hope and pity from others.
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Howlan wrote:
> Susmita Biswas wrote:
> > I agree with the author that people often don't know that they have this
> > problem. I think they should understand it first that they are suffering
> > from anxiety. The author provided all the small signs. People should keep
> > them in mind.
>
> Yes, once you start neglecting things it can be ugly in the wrong run. What is
> required in these cases is awareness. Someone must be able to make you aware of the
> things going on and guide you in the proper way.

The person being guided must also be willing to listen and embrace the process. The reason stigmatization is becoming rampant is that the majority of individuals aren't willing to cope with their situation. They end up rebelling against their condition, which gives a negative outlook on them.
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Howlan wrote:
> gatuguta2030 wrote:
> > Yes. Anxiety is stigmatized. Society plays a big role in stigmatizing
> > people suffering from stress and anxiety. This makes people not to open up
> > on what they are experiencing.
>
> Yes and if this keeps on accumulating the person may suffer from not only serious
> anxiety-related issues but they would also lose confidence in themselves or what they
> are. So a major answer to this problem is in a word this book. it will help see the
> problem and solutions and of the numerous methods mentioned one must be effective.

Sure, stigmatization and anxiety may lead to other chronic conditions like depression. It is, therefore, necessary to seek assistance whenever possible.
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