The book involves only a few female characters: Is it justified?
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Re: The book involves only a few female characters: Is it justified?
In one passage, describing lobster traps, one character says, “it’s logistics and communication…so they just pull in enough for themselves; then sell it to fancy restaurants who overcharge so that no one can afford it...” Fancy restaurants? Logistics? Shortly thereafter, there’s a scene where, “Soldiers were practicing swordplay and doing calisthenics across the property of the fort.” And in the same description, there was, “a football field, complete with field goal posts.” In addition, concepts such as “popular reformist movement,” and “subsidizing medical care for the homeless,” just didn’t seem to jive with this story or the feel of the era." If the author could mix and match these elements of different eras, the era isn't a very good explanation for not many women. I must say that the mage-commander who arrested Meldorath was a woman. Counts for something I guess.

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Agreed, but none of these positions are prestigious are they? Beth has potential and may be more prominent in subsequent books, but in the first of the series, women definitely are not in positions of power and prestige.Ellylion wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 10:27 Beth's character is very interesting, in my opinionAlso, let us not forget about the Lord Eldus' housekeeper. She is very intriguing. She holds all the keys and knows all the secrets. Also, she would close her eyes to many evil things just to survive. She is quite memorable.
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With all due respect, a book character can be interesting enough without being in positions of power. Jane Eyre wasn't a queen yet she's the one of the most well known female characters in the world literature.tasteph1364 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 22:33Agreed, but none of these positions are prestigious are they? Beth has potential and may be more prominent in subsequent books, but in the first of the series, women definitely are not in positions of power and prestige.Ellylion wrote: ↑01 Oct 2020, 10:27 Beth's character is very interesting, in my opinionAlso, let us not forget about the Lord Eldus' housekeeper. She is very intriguing. She holds all the keys and knows all the secrets. Also, she would close her eyes to many evil things just to survive. She is quite memorable.
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also, what do you think the author should have done? pushed extra, unnecessary characters into the book? what would that given you? nothing good, I promise. said from experience
so yes, it is justified: Justified to write literature without worrying that someone might get offended or start a demonstration against him. Justified to not have to turn men into woman and woman into men in your story just to create nonexistent (well, existant in a book. debatable.) equality.
I apologize if anyone was offended.
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Seems pretty impossible to escape identity politics, even when you write a novel. Everyone wants to see more of "me" everywhere. Maybe Tysz should have included more Latino characters? Native American characters? Jewish characters? And so on? And each of those characters should have had "x" role, with "x" amount of power and prestige? Somehow I am under the impression that a novel is the author's creation, complete with the characters she/he envisions. If we struggle to enjoy novels that don't include characters of specific identity groups, with specific roles, according to our personal preferences, does that say anything about us? I have no intent to offend anyone, but I certainly don't apologize if you disagree with me or are offended. I think we all have a right to express our opinions, even unpopular ones, without having to apologize...unless what we are saying actually is offensive.blackjack1 wrote: ↑12 Oct 2020, 09:23 why does it matter so much? there are books that involve few woman and books that involves few men. that is the way it is. especially since the author is a man himself. also, this book is set in medieval times- therefore it doesn't make much sense to give woman powerful roles.
also, what do you think the author should have done? pushed extra, unnecessary characters into the book? what would that given you? nothing good, I promise. said from experience
so yes, it is justified: Justified to write literature without worrying that someone might get offended or start a demonstration against him. Justified to not have to turn men into woman and woman into men in your story just to create nonexistent (well, existant in a book. debatable.) equality.
I apologize if anyone was offended.
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