I beg to differ with your sentiments. Ron was so deep into gambling that he would anticipate his opponent's moves during a match. He was so hooked that every penny he had was used up in a game. You know he was serious about it if he only bought a car to make his commute to the gambling club.EnobongGold wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 17:50 Sometimes people are pushed to do something out of circumstance. I wouldn't conclude that he really loved gambling, I'd rather say he did it to make money. He developed his love for Math when he later started to school
Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
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Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
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I wouldn't say Ron's decisions were regulated by anything else rather than his interests. You shouldn't forget that it is through playing chess that he met Regina. She later became the only person that challenged him to become better. Robert Leet doesn't show Ron's habit as a gig. Instead, he showcases him as a gambling fanatic.valeriejane wrote: ↑05 Nov 2020, 19:40 I think gambling was simply a way to make ends meet. When Ron found something better to occupy his time, he gave up gambling. In fact, he says he can only focus on one thing at a time, and gambling when away fairly quickly in the story.
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I agree. He planned all of that; he was really into it. What I'm not sure about is his love about mathematics. He's great at it, but I think he was winging it all the way through his doctorate, until his professor told him that he wasn't cut off for academic life. He's passionate about it on a certain level, I guess; that's what happens when you're really good at something, anyway.Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 05:13I beg to differ with your sentiments. Ron was so deep into gambling that he would anticipate his opponent's moves during a match. He was so hooked that every penny he had was used up in a game. You know he was serious about it if he only bought a car to make his commute to the gambling club.EnobongGold wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 17:50 Sometimes people are pushed to do something out of circumstance. I wouldn't conclude that he really loved gambling, I'd rather say he did it to make money. He developed his love for Math when he later started to school
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I think it can work both ways. He didn't go to school because he was interested in earning money. He saw it only as a place to spend money on—money he didn't have. So, he goes to find work instead. But everybody knows you'll only earn enough there to survive day to day. So, he turns to gambling, where you have the chance to earn thousands in one sitting. When Regina gave him the opportunity to do both—go to school and earn money—he grabbed it.Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 05:17I wouldn't say Ron's decisions were regulated by anything else rather than his interests. You shouldn't forget that it is through playing chess that he met Regina. She later became the only person that challenged him to become better. Robert Leet doesn't show Ron's habit as a gig. Instead, he showcases him as a gambling fanatic.valeriejane wrote: ↑05 Nov 2020, 19:40 I think gambling was simply a way to make ends meet. When Ron found something better to occupy his time, he gave up gambling. In fact, he says he can only focus on one thing at a time, and gambling when away fairly quickly in the story.
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I can't admit that Ron had an interest for maths from the beginning. Instead, I'd say his IQ was good enough for him to be a mathematics fanatic. It's evident from his moves in chess and his success in class after a while. And again, he had to be pushed to realize his potential in academics.lavkathleen wrote: ↑10 Nov 2020, 03:29I agree. He planned all of that; he was really into it. What I'm not sure about is his love about mathematics. He's great at it, but I think he was winging it all the way through his doctorate, until his professor told him that he wasn't cut off for academic life. He's passionate about it on a certain level, I guess; that's what happens when you're really good at something, anyway.Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 05:13I beg to differ with your sentiments. Ron was so deep into gambling that he would anticipate his opponent's moves during a match. He was so hooked that every penny he had was used up in a game. You know he was serious about it if he only bought a car to make his commute to the gambling club.EnobongGold wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 17:50 Sometimes people are pushed to do something out of circumstance. I wouldn't conclude that he really loved gambling, I'd rather say he did it to make money. He developed his love for Math when he later started to school
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To some degree I'd say yes to your sentiments. But on the contrary, where did Ron start his fetish for money and more money? It was in gambling. It's an addictive venture which led him to spend sleepless hours. It's for the same reason that he can't settle down, not until Regina spoke some sense into him. I don't believe he was trying to find the best life for himself, I'd confidently say he was after a quick fix for all his troubles.lavkathleen wrote: ↑10 Nov 2020, 03:36I think it can work both ways. He didn't go to school because he was interested in earning money. He saw it only as a place to spend money on—money he didn't have. So, he goes to find work instead. But everybody knows you'll only earn enough there to survive day to day. So, he turns to gambling, where you have the chance to earn thousands in one sitting. When Regina gave him the opportunity to do both—go to school and earn money—he grabbed it.Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: ↑06 Nov 2020, 05:17I wouldn't say Ron's decisions were regulated by anything else rather than his interests. You shouldn't forget that it is through playing chess that he met Regina. She later became the only person that challenged him to become better. Robert Leet doesn't show Ron's habit as a gig. Instead, he showcases him as a gambling fanatic.valeriejane wrote: ↑05 Nov 2020, 19:40 I think gambling was simply a way to make ends meet. When Ron found something better to occupy his time, he gave up gambling. In fact, he says he can only focus on one thing at a time, and gambling when away fairly quickly in the story.
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Yes, I also think money was the motivation to Ron's decisions on schooling. He didn't think he had the potential to score the required grades to receive Regina's stipend. That shows that his interests were more aligned to gambling than to mathematics.
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I had not seen it in this perspective. But I would agree, Ron's attention is always attached to a current need. When he gets new housemates, his attention shifts to winning their trust and friendship. When he starts earning more money in poker, his attention switches to buying a car so that he can go to the casinos more. And that cycle keeps going round and round. This must be the reason he doesn't settle in one relationship. It's one of the weaknesses I found with him as a protagonist.JGretz-7 wrote: ↑20 Nov 2020, 21:00 I think that Ron's single-minded focus to tasks at hand are always to reach an immediate goal: earn money, survive, and get the girl to notice him. He lacks overall direction and motivation, so when something grabs his attention, he sticks to it. His interest in chess and gambling both seem like logical choices for someone that is gifted in mathematics. He just always seemed to find that the practical need outweighed the desire to learn just for learning.
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Because of school, he learned a lot which developed his intelligence immensely, and he found strength in mathematics. His interests lean towards gambling since, to him, gambling means earning money quickly. However, gambling does require some form of math skills, and that skill he has in math is enhanced by schooling.
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I totally agree with you. We see Ron gambling from an early age (while playing chess), and he continues to gamble until he’s beat up and Regina pushes him to school. I think he used gambling to get through life, but he found his true passion in math! I think it takes time for a lot of us to really find our passion!maiiii_maii wrote: ↑02 Nov 2020, 20:55 I think that Ron resorted to gambling because he could not go on to college. He's intelligent yet because no one pushed him and gave him support to continue his studies, he reverted to gambling instead.
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Indeed, interest and passion are not identical. Ron was more connected to gambling than to maths. Regina is the source of his awakening. And as revealed by Robert Leet, it took a while for Regina to convince Ron that he had the potential to be good at school. Hence, I'd conclude that Ron's love for gambling outweighs his interest in math .Mvictoria wrote: ↑26 Nov 2020, 11:06I totally agree with you. We see Ron gambling from an early age (while playing chess), and he continues to gamble until he’s beat up and Regina pushes him to school. I think he used gambling to get through life, but he found his true passion in math! I think it takes time for a lot of us to really find our passion!maiiii_maii wrote: ↑02 Nov 2020, 20:55 I think that Ron resorted to gambling because he could not go on to college. He's intelligent yet because no one pushed him and gave him support to continue his studies, he reverted to gambling instead.
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