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Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 23:50
by Joseph_ngaruiya
Ron Larsen loves gambling. He also has an interest in math. I think Ron was more inclined to gambling than to maths. It is through gambling that he discovers he has the potential to do good in school. I would contribute his success to gambling than to schooling. Do you agree?
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 16:40
by Gift Nwagu
That's a really unique perspective you have taken on the matter. I would argue that gambling definitely played a part in him doing well in mathematics but I would also argue that his "crush" on and partnership with Regina also had a strong part to play in him getting so good at maths. We often learn things for the wrong reasons but that doesn't stop the result from being great! Great perspective you have.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 23:50
by lavkathleen
Yes, he didn't have much interest in school, given the fact that he's more interested in earning money since he grew up poor. But he discovered his potential in school through Regina, who convinced him to go there, not through gambling. When he got in, he discovered he was good at mathematics and his professors even noticed him.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 02 Nov 2020, 20:55
by maiiii_maii
I think that Ron resorted to gambling because he could not go on to college. He's intelligent yet because no one pushed him and gave him support to continue his studies, he reverted to gambling instead.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 02 Nov 2020, 22:27
by houligan19
I think that it can easily work both ways. He was interested in gambling to earn a living. He went to school because it became a way to earn a living. It seems as though he liked math somewhat already, but gambling increased that interest, along with his crush, of course. Hard to tell which was actually more important, or if Ron even knew himself.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 03 Nov 2020, 03:36
by lavkathleen
houligan19 wrote: ↑02 Nov 2020, 22:27
I think that it can easily work both ways. He was interested in gambling to earn a living. He went to school because it became a way to earn a living. It seems as though he liked math somewhat already, but gambling increased that interest, along with his crush, of course. Hard to tell which was actually more important, or if Ron even knew himself.
It wasn't explicitly mentioned in the book that he had interest in math from the start, or school in general. He was good at it—you need to be pretty quick about it if you're going to count cards—but he probably wasn't aware of it until his professors noticed him.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 03 Nov 2020, 12:45
by Melexa
I think Ron's love for gambling was borne out of his desire to get money. We see this love for gambling right from the beginning at the Chess tournaments and later on when he shifted into poker - all of which was driven by his desire to get money.
Generally, school wasn't central in Ron's mind. So his love for maths was on the periphery. His focus was money, and whatever gives him that becomes important to him.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 04 Nov 2020, 00:25
by Joseph_ngaruiya
maiiii_maii wrote: ↑02 Nov 2020, 20:55
I think that Ron resorted to gambling because he could not go on to college. He's intelligent yet because no one pushed him and gave him support to continue his studies, he reverted to gambling instead.
Ron isn't hopeless. He is a gambling fanatic. As an addictive and involving habit, it influences the majority of his decisions. Maths is a complimentary of the underlying focus on gambling. Even though we may agree that the habit diminishes a bit after a while, it still rekindles from time to time.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 04 Nov 2020, 00:28
by Joseph_ngaruiya
Melexa wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 12:45
I think Ron's love for gambling was borne out of his desire to get money. We see this love for gambling right from the beginning at the Chess tournaments and later on when he shifted into poker - all of which was driven by his desire to get money.
Generally, school wasn't central in Ron's mind. So his love for maths was on the periphery. His focus was money, and whatever gives him that becomes important to him.
Your sentiments are true and as clear as the truth is. But again don't you think Ron's love for maths was what moved him into successful gambling tactics? He might not have known it, but his calculations on poker and chess were precise and correct.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 04 Nov 2020, 02:28
by Melexa
Joseph_ngaruiya wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 00:28
Melexa wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 12:45
I think Ron's love for gambling was borne out of his desire to get money. We see this love for gambling right from the beginning at the Chess tournaments and later on when he shifted into poker - all of which was driven by his desire to get money.
Generally, school wasn't central in Ron's mind. So his love for maths was on the periphery. His focus was money, and whatever gives him that becomes important to him.
Your sentiments are true and as clear as the truth is. But again don't you think Ron's love for maths was what moved him into successful gambling tactics? He might not have known it, but his calculations on poker and chess were precise and correct.
You are right. My perspective, however, is that his desire for money moved him into gambling, while his mathematical abilities made him successful in it. My humble opinion though

Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 04 Nov 2020, 13:00
by Brenda Creech
Melexa wrote: ↑03 Nov 2020, 12:45
I think Ron's love for gambling was borne out of his desire to get money. We see this love for gambling right from the beginning at the Chess tournaments and later on when he shifted into poker - all of which was driven by his desire to get money.
Generally, school wasn't central in Ron's mind. So his love for maths was on the periphery. His focus was money, and whatever gives him that becomes important to him.
I absolutely agree with you! His focus was money more than school. When he did go to school it was because Regina was paying him to do so! And you are right about his love for gambling being apparent right from the start with his love of chess. Very well said!
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 04 Nov 2020, 16:43
by HannahsReads
What an interesting question. My take on Ron is that he never had much internal motivation. The outward motivational lures of winning at gambling and seeking for Regina, then Sheila's, approval were what drove him. I think his cleverness enabled him to use both math and gambling to succeed once he had that external motivation.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 04 Nov 2020, 17:50
by EnobongGold
Sometimes people are pushed to do something out of circumstance. I wouldn't conclude that he really loved gambling, I'd rather say he did it to make money. He developed his love for Math when he later started to school
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 05 Nov 2020, 19:40
by Valerie Garske
I think gambling was simply a way to make ends meet. When Ron found something better to occupy his time, he gave up gambling. In fact, he says he can only focus on one thing at a time, and gambling when away fairly quickly in the story.
~ Valerie.
Re: Is It Ron's Love for Gambling or Maths?
Posted: 06 Nov 2020, 05:10
by Joseph_ngaruiya
HannahsReads wrote: ↑04 Nov 2020, 16:43
What an interesting question. My take on Ron is that he never had much internal motivation. The outward motivational lures of winning at gambling and seeking for Regina, then Sheila's, approval were what drove him. I think his cleverness enabled him to use both math and gambling to succeed once he had that external motivation.
Indeed, he is cunning and edgy. It wasn't easy to strike a balance between the two interests, but Ron was lucky enough to hack it. However, I found his weaknesses to be stronger than his strengths. He couldn't keep up with renting a house for himself and most of his money was used up in gambling.