Is it okay to compare and contrast science and religion?

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Maddie Atkinson wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 09:23
Sushan wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 08:09
Maddie Atkinson wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 07:09 I think it is absolutely okay to compare science and religion. Science has proved stories that happened in the Bible and discovered origins of these stories. I think that as a whole, it is a given that a lot of the stories, especially in the Old Testament, are not to be taken at face value, but rather metaphors for morals and beliefs. So being able to find the origins of these stories are, to me as a Christian, very important. People also use science to help support their beliefs. For example, to help explain how God created everything when science proved that the world was not created in seven days, I believe that God created the Big Bang, so in that sense he did create everything, just more generally. Also, it is so difficult to justify things said in the Bible when science is such a big part of society these days. So yeah, I think it is perfectly okay to contrast science and religion, especially if it helps people to make sense of the Bible and their own personal beliefs.
That comparison can be used either way, either to prove the biblical teachings or to deny them. It depends on the one who is doing that. In that context is it still okay to compare the two?
Good point, well put. I think it is okay because it really depends on the persons point of view. If someone is looking for validation of their beliefs then they can look at the proof, and if someone just wants answers and the answer they get is denial, then science answers their question. What they then do with that information is up to them, but I still thinks it's okay in that context to compare the two, if that makes sense?
I think that u r right, science can provide information about relegious teachings being right or wrong and then it depends upon the reader whether they wanna believeon them or not. But science provides a more believable argument in defending or denying any theory presented by relegious arguments.
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Murimia wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 03:57 Religion is is what makes a human whole being. you cannot do without it therefore science cannot be compare with religion.
Religion only cannot make a man whole. It needs knowledge as well. Knowledge comes from science. So both are needed for a man to be complete. Yet, these two are two different entities, so they cannot be compared
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Fahad Baibras wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 04:26
Maddie Atkinson wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 09:23
Sushan wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 08:09

That comparison can be used either way, either to prove the biblical teachings or to deny them. It depends on the one who is doing that. In that context is it still okay to compare the two?
Good point, well put. I think it is okay because it really depends on the persons point of view. If someone is looking for validation of their beliefs then they can look at the proof, and if someone just wants answers and the answer they get is denial, then science answers their question. What they then do with that information is up to them, but I still thinks it's okay in that context to compare the two, if that makes sense?
I think that u r right, science can provide information about relegious teachings being right or wrong and then it depends upon the reader whether they wanna believeon them or not. But science provides a more believable argument in defending or denying any theory presented by relegious arguments.
Quite true. If a religious teaching is backed by scientific proof, then it will be far more strong than merely being a religious teaching. But on the other hand, science can disprove religion as well. Finally, what one accepts or rejects depends on one himself
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As a creationist I believe that God created all things, from the laws that govern the universe to the laws that govern man. And it is this same God who gives us the capacity to contemplate and appreciate both Him and science. God urges us to study the works of His hands because in so doing we understand something about Him. Thus it is absolutely okay to compare and contrast science and religion.
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I think it is alright to analyze the two, that doesn't change current realities. Where I object to books that look at science and creation is the point at which the individual doing the examination is clearly doing it to discredit there is a God! It is one of those 'aha, I advised you so' correlations! I don't see that in this book, in any event not up until now, so I think it is fine to contrast the two with set reality!
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No one can prove or disprove the existence of God. I use the scientifically known perfection, in both form and function, of every subatomic particle of energy, of which every gravid existence is made, to suggest and define the essence of a perfect rationality who may have designed them, and kept them perfect. For want of a better word, I call it God. God is a Perfect Rational Being. That definition discredits all religion that I am aware of to date.
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Science and Religion are two different themes. Comparering these themes makes sense to me. It is the only way to understand what are possible mythical statements in the religious books.
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Definitely. Religion includes myths that cannot be proved or explained, but at some level, so does science. Science is today's new religion, which is much more logical than any other religion, but it has the same characteristics of a religion. One can in fact choose not to believe in science. This doesn't make scientific phenomenon untrue, but that goes for any other religion - if something is real, one's disbelief will not make it untrue. Thus, the author is justified in comparing the two.
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I think we must realise that both of them were created by the same God, albeit for different purposes. Science is God's way of allowing man to use his God-given wisdom to invent and create stuff while religion is a means to understand and accept God for who he is. Comparing them isn't bad but always remember that both came from the same source.
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I think it is okay to compare and contrast science and religion. Some religious beliefs has some scientific explanation to it and makes more sense when compared with science. While those beliefs that creates confusion or controversies can be thought of, with respect to science.
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Luluwa79 wrote: 01 Dec 2020, 03:43 To me, religion is a belief while science is a theory. so it wouldn't be fair to compare to different things that does not relate.
I agree with you. Religion and science are two different things, so I don't think they can be equally compared. I do think it's okay to think about their differences, but they are two seperate ideas.
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I believe it is not right to compare religion with science. Religion is a belief of persons, like a thing of the heart. Science is dealing with facts and what you can see with your human eyes
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Depends on how the religious beliefs are being applied. I've seen mostly religious people apply the stories and beliefs to their personal actions in their life, the way they treat others, they way they speak to their family, the decisions they make to help or harm. But I'm not blind to the fact that people are applying religious thought to wider areas. It's one thing to apply the compassion you should exhibit by your religion's rules by starting a soup kitchen and setting policies in place to help the poor or sick, but another entirely to set out a decree that we all must follow the rules of your chosen god.

I find multi-disciplinary discussion fascinating and necessary, to learn at least more of where we all are coming from. So personally, I would say you have to take each piece in turn, whether quantum physics has a place in the discussion.
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To a greater degree, science only agrees with religion. But proves the existence of God. While science proves God through the natural things around us, religion proves God through spiritual doctrines. Both agree. But we often manipulate them to disagree.
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No, I don't think it's okay to compare both. Science is mostly evidence-based; while religions are mostly not. Many Bible stories defy logic when interpreted literally. It wouldn't pass muster when pitched against a logic-based subject like science.
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