Do you agree with the author's opinions on sin?
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Do you agree with the author's opinions on sin?
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I completely agree with you!!! When something was done that religious leaders did not like, they manipulated the Bible to use it as a way to prove that they were right. For example, what they did with homosexuality. Religious leaders in America wanted to advocate their opinion on it and push forward their agenda of homophobia, so paid for the Bible to be mistranslated from 'man shall not lie with boy' (so paedophilia) to 'man shall not lie with man' (homosexuality). It is a complete manipulation to fit with the political agenda of the few, thereby making it a sin, which is selfish. Sins are completely man made to fit different people's agendas.Sushan wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 13:50 Totally agree with the author. We can think about our legal system and understand that. Initially there was no such system. When someof the things that people did disrupted the society, people got together and prohibited them to be repeated making those laws, and for those who break them, they invented the punishments. But it could not be done for each and everything. So few knowledgeable ones found a better way. Religious manipulations. They named few things as sins and prevented others from doing them due to the fear of a superior repercussion. As far as I see, that is how a thing called sin has occurred in most of the situations
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I do agree that there are some sins that are common sense, such as the one you said, or thou shalt not murder etc. but the ones that are no common sense are clearly those that are man made, because you have to think about them and some of them are so weird and convoluted. So yeah, I agree with you!mariana90 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 22:46 I do believe a lot of the sins are man-made, like the ones you listed. However, I don't think all of them are. When Jesus says "thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself", he's pretty drawing a line in regards to Christian behavior: anything we do that purposefully harms others is a sin.
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Absolutely. That's where the manipulative part of religion comes in. And the reason why lately a lot of people are distancing themselves from it.Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑06 Dec 2020, 06:31 I do agree that there are some sins that are common sense, such as the one you said, or thou shalt not murder etc. but the ones that are no common sense are clearly those that are man made, because you have to think about them and some of them are so weird and convoluted. So yeah, I agree with you!
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When mankind first gained intellect, there were no concepts of sins. They lived together, ate together, and slept together. Lust was not a crime back then, as they could mate with anyone and how many people they wanted. Pride did not exist, because everyone was equal; everyone was neither superior nor inferior. Greed, glutton, and laziness were unknown matters, as they shared with each other everything; they ate what they wanted and slept when they pleased. With no conflicts, there was no reason to get jealous or angry.
Nonetheless, as mankind started to evolve, many personal issues began to show. I think this was the reason they felt the need to establish laws, as it's required for a society to remain stable. Still, as time passes, people's mindsets change. Things that were considered immoral back then can be seen as normal nowadays, such as free sex, homosexuality, drinking, gambling, or owning personal properties. Even murderers are no longer sentenced to death unless they committed severe crimes. So, I would say it's entirely up to humans whether an action or thought is a sin or not.
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But, from what I understand, the author's theory refers to evil as part of God's creation that emphasizes His perfection, and although man has extracted from this core of evil other sins such as greed, arrogance, or domination, evil remains essentially God's masterwork. In my opinion, Dr. Hunt draws a line between man's ability to twist the divine words into self-interest (selfishness again) and the acceptance of evil as an essential and necessary part of the good.
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I agree to disagree with the author. Sin is disobedience to the law. Sins are man-made but like the author said, "it is up to us to do things as we will, they are not possible to control". But I think sins are possible to control it just takes determination and self-control.Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 12:29 The author seems to believe that many of the sins in the world are man made, rather than divine law. For example, sex before marriage, or polyamourous relationships, are wrong in the eyes of the Church, however, the author believes that these sort of things are not wrong, as sex, food, shelter, love etc. are all the bare essentials that humans need to survive, just like any animal, it is up to us to do with these things as we will, they are not possible to control. We are not superior, we just have a superiority complex leading us to believe that we are better than all others. Therefore, the author comes to the conclusion that the only sin in the world is selfishness, especially in the way that the Church preaches equality bus has enough money to end world hunger, yet keeps that money for less important things, like more buildings. So I guess what I am trying to say, is I agree with the author that sins are man made and are used to control the population. What do you guys think??
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Sins are definitely possible to control, but I think that there are certain sins that are not necessary, they are made by the Church to try and control people and make sure they follow their doctrine. Trying to control a person's basic instincts are impossibleLuluwa79 wrote: ↑11 Dec 2020, 02:48I agree to disagree with the author. Sin is disobedience to the law. Sins are man-made but like the author said, "it is up to us to do things as we will, they are not possible to control". But I think sins are possible to control it just takes determination and self-control.Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 12:29 The author seems to believe that many of the sins in the world are man made, rather than divine law. For example, sex before marriage, or polyamourous relationships, are wrong in the eyes of the Church, however, the author believes that these sort of things are not wrong, as sex, food, shelter, love etc. are all the bare essentials that humans need to survive, just like any animal, it is up to us to do with these things as we will, they are not possible to control. We are not superior, we just have a superiority complex leading us to believe that we are better than all others. Therefore, the author comes to the conclusion that the only sin in the world is selfishness, especially in the way that the Church preaches equality bus has enough money to end world hunger, yet keeps that money for less important things, like more buildings. So I guess what I am trying to say, is I agree with the author that sins are man made and are used to control the population. What do you guys think??