Do you agree with the author's opinions on sin?
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Re: Do you agree with the author's opinions on sin?
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Yes, absolutely! Sins are man-made since it's easier to control and manipulate a population by creating rules and principles. Then, punishing the ones that are different or 'sinful' as the Church would call them.Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 06:31I completely agree with you!!! When something was done that religious leaders did not like, they manipulated the Bible to use it as a way to prove that they were right. For example, what they did with homosexuality. Religious leaders in America wanted to advocate their opinion on it and push forward their agenda of homophobia, so paid for the Bible to be mistranslated from 'man shall not lie with boy' (so paedophilia) to 'man shall not lie with man' (homosexuality). It is a complete manipulation to fit with the political agenda of the few, thereby making it a sin, which is selfish. Sins are completely man made to fit different people's agendas.Sushan wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 13:50 Totally agree with the author. We can think about our legal system and understand that. Initially there was no such system. When someof the things that people did disrupted the society, people got together and prohibited them to be repeated making those laws, and for those who break them, they invented the punishments. But it could not be done for each and everything. So few knowledgeable ones found a better way. Religious manipulations. They named few things as sins and prevented others from doing them due to the fear of a superior repercussion. As far as I see, that is how a thing called sin has occurred in most of the situations
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God created man with the ability to know and choose between right and wrong. God did not condemn Solomon for having many women, but for breaking God's laws. I think that our choices in life and how we use them in relation to God, humans, animals and plants is what constitutes sin.Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑04 Dec 2020, 12:29 The author seems to believe that many of the sins in the world are man made, rather than divine law. For example, sex before marriage, or polyamourous relationships, are wrong in the eyes of the Church, however, the author believes that these sort of things are not wrong, as sex, food, shelter, love etc. are all the bare essentials that humans need to survive, just like any animal, it is up to us to do with these things as we will, they are not possible to control. We are not superior, we just have a superiority complex leading us to believe that we are better than all others. Therefore, the author comes to the conclusion that the only sin in the world is selfishness, especially in the way that the Church preaches equality bus has enough money to end world hunger, yet keeps that money for less important things, like more buildings. So I guess what I am trying to say, is I agree with the author that sins are man made and are used to control the population. What do you guys think??
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I am in total agreement with your point. Sin does not hurt God. The actions that are termed sin are labeled that so that man-to-man wickedness will reduce. In the sense of it, the commandments are in place to prevent man from man's wickedness.mariana90 wrote: ↑05 Dec 2020, 22:46 I do believe a lot of the sins are man-made, like the ones you listed. However, I don't think all of them are. When Jesus says "thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself", he's pretty drawing a line in regards to Christian behavior: anything we do that purposefully harms others is a sin.
So, whether sin is man-made or not, which in my opinion it is not, we shouldn't do things that will harm ourselves and our neighbors.
If we know that we are not made for ourselves and as such, our lives is not 100% ours, then, we will live a better life.
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I agree with you to an extent, but there are laws that are not written in the Bible that the Church will promote as sin. For example, the Church promotes sex before marriage as sin. The Bible talks about immoral sex, or abnormal sex, but not sex before marriage. So in this sense, sin is man made as this was an idea used to control people, specifically womenOrizon wrote: ↑03 Feb 2021, 06:28 I disagree with the author's presentation on sin is man-made and it is used to control the population of the world, as well as I agree with some argument from it. I feel like we must know that God's standard stands sure and those that are identified with God must depart from what is against His doctrine and instruction. Even with the civilization, acceptance or normalization of some ideas, if it is against His instruction, it is a sin.
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Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑05 Feb 2021, 16:26I agree with you to an extent, but there are laws that are not written in the Bible that the Church will promote as sin. For example, the Church promotes sex before marriage as sin. The Bible talks about immoral sex, or abnormal sex, but not sex before marriage. So in this sense, sin is man made as this was an idea used to control people, specifically womenOrizon wrote: ↑03 Feb 2021, 06:28 I disagree with the author's presentation on sin is man-made and it is used to control the population of the world, as well as I agree with some argument from it. I feel like we must know that God's standard stands sure and those that are identified with God must depart from what is against His doctrine and instruction. Even with the civilization, acceptance or normalization of some ideas, if it is against His instruction, it is a sin.
I understand what you are saying but the New Testament of the Bible quotes, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." 1 Corinthians:6:18. Fornication (sexual intercourse, especially on the part of an unmarried person) is a sin. The way we see sin now is different from God's view of it. The only way we can see it as He sees it is through the Scriptures (if we truly and fully believe the Scriptures as God's word).
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But surely, in a way, that is just interpreting the Bible in a way that it doesn't explicitly state? The Bible has been translated and mistranslated so many times, how can we know for sure that it has not been manipulated by church leaders (which they have done before)?Orizon wrote: ↑06 Feb 2021, 01:11Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑05 Feb 2021, 16:26I agree with you to an extent, but there are laws that are not written in the Bible that the Church will promote as sin. For example, the Church promotes sex before marriage as sin. The Bible talks about immoral sex, or abnormal sex, but not sex before marriage. So in this sense, sin is man made as this was an idea used to control people, specifically womenOrizon wrote: ↑03 Feb 2021, 06:28 I disagree with the author's presentation on sin is man-made and it is used to control the population of the world, as well as I agree with some argument from it. I feel like we must know that God's standard stands sure and those that are identified with God must depart from what is against His doctrine and instruction. Even with the civilization, acceptance or normalization of some ideas, if it is against His instruction, it is a sin.
I understand what you are saying but the New Testament of the Bible quotes, "Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body." 1 Corinthians:6:18. Fornication (sexual intercourse, especially on the part of an unmarried person) is a sin. The way we see sin now is different from God's view of it. The only way we can see it as He sees it is through the Scriptures (if we truly and fully believe the Scriptures as God's word).