You haven't offended me, and I am sorry if I came across harsh in any way. But you must understand that I am judged for my sexuality because of what the Bible says. I just don't see how it originally said that, considering homosexuality wasn't even a word then, and the original word meant boy. God made us all and He doesn't make mistakes, so being gay just cannot be a sin in my eyes. We do have different perspectives on life, and that's okay! But may I ask you something, without judgement of your church or the way you live? Why do we have to agree to disagree on the rights that someone has? I believe it is my right to love who I love. I am not harming anyone or changing your life for being gay. I am not asking you to understand what I go through every day for loving who I love, I am not judging you for the church you are a part of or the way you were brought up. I am just asking, based on your just your understanding of human rights. Why should I not be allowed to be who I am if it is God that made me that way?Thea Frederick wrote: ↑02 Jan 2021, 13:04Alright, well, I can see this won't go anywhere. To fully understand my point of view you would have to understand the church I am apart of and the teaching and lifestyle that accompanies it. But it is the same for me as well. So, I guess we have to agree to disagree.Maddie Atkinson wrote: ↑02 Jan 2021, 08:27You don't have to agree or disagree, but it is what happened, it's not an opinion it's a fact. Do you really believe that God wants everyone to love each other, but draws the line at same sex? It doesn't affect Him, or anyone else besides the people it involves and it isn't anyone's business but theirs. Also, religion or not, I don't think anyone gets to decide that some people deserve more human rights than another. I am gay and that is not a sin. That mistranslation has led to more deaths than you could possibly imagine because people have believed in it so whole heartedly, or have used it to support their own agenda that they thought it was their right to kill people just for who they love.Thea Frederick wrote: ↑01 Jan 2021, 22:43
I disagree about the mistranslation, but that is okay. We don't have to agree.
They aren't perfect, but, like I said, they are working together and PRAYING. They dedicate their lives to the service of God and his people and they keep each other in line. That is why the Eastern Orthodox Church does not believe in the infallibility of the pope. He is a man and also likely to sin. In the Eastern Orthodox Church there is a synod of bishops so that when one is making a mistake the others can counsel against it.
Do you really believe that we each have the wisdom to determine the meaning behind all of God's words? I certainly don't have that wisdom. I don't pray and seek God's will nearly enough to know his Truth when it confronts me.
I personally believe that I have the right to make my own choices, and I shouldn't be told by someone interpreting the Bible what path I should take, because that is their interpretation of the Bible. What makes a priest or bishop more wise than me when it comes to interpreting the Bible? I think all of us have the wisdom to determine God's word because we all have different morals and different values, so God's word means a different thing to each person. We shouldn't have to follow one path just because someone told us what their opinion on God's word was!
I appreciate your willingness to discuss with me. I hope I have not offended you. We just clearly live by different morals and guidelines and we have different perspectives on life.
I really am sorry if I have caused offense, I really do understand the way different churches and beliefs lead to different lifestyles. I didn't mean for this to not go anywhere. Sometimes debating beliefs doesn't have to lead to persuading the other to change, but rather challenges and helps people think on other perspectives. I wouldn't want to change what you believe at all, and I really am sorry for coming off as aggressive, it is just hard to get tone across through typing answers rather than actually talking!