God is God. He is all-knowing. If he deceived us, it is for a reason. I believe we were created. Perhaps the author is right about the world being billions of years old. It doesn't really matter because I believe the information God provides us with in the Bible is what we need.Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 00:24 The author explains, quoting some of the historical scholars, that actually the earth is not old as the scientists claim. He suggests that the God has created it in several thousand years (a 'day' in God's creation is taken as a 'thousand years'), but has made it to look like billions of years old, with the old stones, fossils, rings on the tree trunks, etc. The author compares this with making a newly made Denim trousers to look old by fading its colour and ripping it.
Do you think this is true? If so, has the God deceived us? But why? On the other hand, has science got it all wrong despite hundreds of years of studies?God created a theoretical timeline of all of existence, starting from the Big Bang and spanning billions of years. In this theoretical timeline, stars were born and died, dinosaurs roamed the Earth, and different human-like creatures came and went. Then, at a very specific point in this timeline, God took a snapshot of the entire universe, exactly as it would look at that moment, and that’s what He created. In other words, God brought a world billions of years old into existence fewer than 6,000 years ago.
Has the God deceived us?
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I don't think this is true.Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 00:24 The author explains, quoting some of the historical scholars, that actually the earth is not old as the scientists claim. He suggests that the God has created it in several thousand years (a 'day' in God's creation is taken as a 'thousand years'), but has made it to look like billions of years old, with the old stones, fossils, rings on the tree trunks, etc. The author compares this with making a newly made Denim trousers to look old by fading its colour and ripping it.
Do you think this is true? If so, has the God deceived us? But why? On the other hand, has science got it all wrong despite hundreds of years of studies?God created a theoretical timeline of all of existence, starting from the Big Bang and spanning billions of years. In this theoretical timeline, stars were born and died, dinosaurs roamed the Earth, and different human-like creatures came and went. Then, at a very specific point in this timeline, God took a snapshot of the entire universe, exactly as it would look at that moment, and that’s what He created. In other words, God brought a world billions of years old into existence fewer than 6,000 years ago.
God created the universe and all other actions that followed are the consequences of the deeds of different objects in the universe or the living beings.
Years of scientific research is also not wrong. But after all I believe no one is above God. And he did not at all deceive us.
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So, how can an abstract concept deceive us? It is we who deceive ourselves, so it is we who deceived us.
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I agree with you here that there might have been a disconnect between what God intended to communicate and how far human language could stretch to convey the intended message. God's timeline is a mystery. For instance, the second coming of Jesus that has been stated to be SOON. If it were mankind's, it could have happened a long time ago. But that's why God is God. Some things are just beyond human understanding.Kelyn wrote: ↑25 Mar 2021, 11:51 No, I don't believe our creator has deliberately lied to us unless it is through a lie of omission. I do believe that their concept of 'time' is profoundly different from ours, if, indeed, they even have a concept of time. Remember that MEN wrote the bible. They were tasked with putting into words we could understand a timelime they themselves would have struggled with. I think that's where the 'disconnect' occured, not through a deliberate lie but through the limited knowledge and understanding of men. Thus, we find artifacts that seem contradictory. The creator's 'timeline' and that of mankind simply do not 'mesh' with one another.
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I believe God never deceived us, and I find the author's opinion about God's theoretical timeline before actual creation had to grasp. The age of God's creation is just the way He says it is, and it could only be that His timeline differs from ours, hence the difficulty in understanding it.Sushan wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 00:24 The author explains, quoting some of the historical scholars, that actually the earth is not old as the scientists claim. He suggests that the God has created it in several thousand years (a 'day' in God's creation is taken as a 'thousand years'), but has made it to look like billions of years old, with the old stones, fossils, rings on the tree trunks, etc. The author compares this with making a newly made Denim trousers to look old by fading its colour and ripping it.
Do you think this is true? If so, has the God deceived us? But why? On the other hand, has science got it all wrong despite hundreds of years of studies?God created a theoretical timeline of all of existence, starting from the Big Bang and spanning billions of years. In this theoretical timeline, stars were born and died, dinosaurs roamed the Earth, and different human-like creatures came and went. Then, at a very specific point in this timeline, God took a snapshot of the entire universe, exactly as it would look at that moment, and that’s what He created. In other words, God brought a world billions of years old into existence fewer than 6,000 years ago.
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