That is the point. He sees it as essential to see through God or Jesus's will for the human to dream, because he believes that God has created the human's to dream, the dreams which are given to humans by the God in His creation. So a human dreaming means a human going in the path that God intended him to follow.ButterscotchCherrie wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 04:00Indeed. The author is a pastor who clearly rejects all flavours of religion other than his own. In that connection, I don't believe he sees any dream as separable from knowing God's will or following Jesus, because those things are a sine qua non for him anyway.I too think so. It seems that this author is quite religious. So he will never deduct the God to a parent who tries to go to their own dreams through their children.
Still my point remains. As even you have said, it seems like that this God has given humans their dreams, and so He owns those dreams. If so, how can humans have their own dreams and pursue them. It will always be a 'burrowed dream'.
"You have to pursue your own dreams, but you are given your dreams by the God". Has the author contradicted himself?
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Re: "You have to pursue your own dreams, but you are given your dreams by the God". Has the author contradicted himself?
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I am not sure whether the bible has contradicted itself. But in my opinion the author has contradicted saying two opposite things regarding dreaming. He invites us to dream, but then he says that the dreams are given to humans by God along with the creation. If so, did the God need to fulfil His dreams through humans? If that is true why an almighty God needed to do such a thing?Michaeljerry309 wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 06:30 Just like most things concerning God and the Bible, this is another contradiction in my opinion because we really can’t be here to fulfill our dreams which the author claims are our priority and then we’d still be told God is the giver of dreams which implies we have no dreams of our own and only have God’s dreams for us which we are to fulfill which in turn kind of indicates a lack of free will. I’m not sure how other readers will feel about this
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If we are given total free will, what is the necessity for one to be on the God's path. If a man is free he could be on his own way as he prefers. He could be able to dream whatever he prefers and do whatever he likes. But if there is a path laid by the God, that means that though humans are given some freedom, still the God is having most of the reigns. In that case how can one's dreams be his own dreams?britcott30 wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 09:37 I don’t think that is a contradiction. I think what the author meant is God gives us rights to dream, since that also one of our free will from God. So we can pursue our dreams without deviating from God’s path.
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May be yes. But I have often said that when somethings happen that the pastors say "That was the God's wish". If that is true, how can humans have their own dreams and their own wishes. On the other hand, if people are having their own dreams and wishes, have those pastors and priests lied to the whole world throughout the past centuries?Suzer6440 xyz wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 10:00 I believe that God has given us the opportunity to dream and to dream as big as want. What we do with our dreams is up to us individually. I don't believe that the author has contradicted himself but sharing his own beliefs
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God didn't implant just the. ability to dream in humans. I am pretty sure He gave us free will as well as other things. What we are looking at is for us to follow our dreams, however we all have the free will not to. I think that is exactly what is causing chaos in the world, humans not following their own dreams (purpose) as given by God.Sushan wrote: ↑01 May 2021, 00:59Was that only the ability that the God has given us? Does that mean the God has no control over our planet or no intention to have a control over it? Is that the reason for this world is being lead towards chaos by various people's various dreams? In that case, is dreaming a bad thing? Has the God given a chaotic ability to the human?El_limitless wrote: ↑01 May 2021, 00:20 What the author was basically trying to say is that God has given us all the ability to dream. A discovery and resilient pursuit of that dream is what the author was referring to in the book.
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In my personal belief, I am against the creation and the concept of an almighty God.WADonnelly wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 11:15 I believe this is actually quite a complex idea as it sort of plays into free will. It is a question of whether we are free to dream our own dreams or whether we are given these dreams by God and so restricted. I think your interpretation is down to personal belief and for the author, this is that God gives us these dreams as he wants what is best for us but it is all up to us whether we follow or not.
But, for the sake of discussion, if the God has created us and has given us the ability to dream, and if He is expecting the best for us, that means He has pre-planned our dreams too. If one chooses to not follow those dreams, then he is leading his way to chaos (as per your description).
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If God has given humans the potential to grow, then He must have let them to act and think freely. But as per the religious leaders say, there are ways and means that God expect from us to do our things. When we think of many of them, they are merely religious concepts, but has no impact on a real social life: i.e. the concept of sins. So this shows that though it is said that humans are free to think (or dream), their actions are restricted by various means.Karmon Kuhn wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 14:00 I think that the author is suggesting that God provides strengths to guide us in our lives, and that he calls us to live up to that potential. But I also think, that we are limited to a single expression of those strengths. I may have misunderstood what the author was saying, but that's how I interpreted it.
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I am not sure that those long lasted family businesses were owned and run by the young heirs of the family because they saw the same dream that the founders of the business saw. When you are handed over a fully grown business to run in a silver platter, how can you have dreams in building it from zero? It is merely following the family tradition with no innovations. Anyway, it is a safe approach rather than jumping into void with a set of totally new crazy dreams.CambaReviewer wrote: ↑02 May 2021, 22:11 I do not think the author contradicted himself by saying on the one hand that people should pursue their dreams and then saying on the other hand that these dreams were given by God. The truth, in my opinion, is that God is our source of inspiration and dreams. I do not think pursuing our parents' dreams always ends in failure. Several family businesses that have been operational for generations are still around because younger people in the family continued to run with the dream of the founders. They appropriated them and expanded them.
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So, I wouldn't say the writer contradicted himself
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