Is death the only thing guaranteed in our lives?
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I agree. It is a commonly accepted fact though many do not go around reciting that. But in this story Prof. Buzzard (actually the author through this character) makes the reader doubt about the inevitability of death with the theory of quantum immortality. So the ordinary reader who will agree with this sentence at the beginning of the book may have changed his/her mind at the end of the book.yomide wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 11:10 Well to answer that question, yes, death is the only thing guaranteed, at least that is what people say. Yes, even if i haven't literally heard it, we all think is. But looking at it the way Prof. Buzzard did, death is the only thing NOT guaranteed. And definitely agree.
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Maybe the quote is relevant to the story because it talks about murders and multiple lives in multiple universes. But if this quantum immortality is for real, then how can Gary's victim can be actually dead? Can't it be another subjective experience for Gary and the victim born again in a different body in a different universe?Urvashi Tripathi wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 14:25 Honestly, I had never heard anyone saying those lines. But I do agree with the statement. We all going to die one day, but each day we get chance to enjoy life, spread love and kindness. I believe there are many more things in life which are guaranteed. As Gary in his dream were committing murder, so I think the statement is relevant with the many world theory and a good start for the book.
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Something should exist first and then only it can be vanished. One should live and then only he can die. But this order is challenged in this story. Gary's possible death (subjective experience to his friends) in one universe gave him a life in another universe. So here we see death coming into play before life appears.Jachike Samuelson wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 17:13I agree with the statement but it isn't complete; there are two things guaranteed—life and death. Dying implies there was a "living." It's what happens during living, though, that often times determines how we die, but the "if" we die was already settled before we were born.Sushan wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 00:17(Location 26 of Kindle version)Death, the only thing in life that is guaranteed. That’s what people say and that’s what we all think. However, what if it isn’t?
The author gets a start to his story with the above statement. He says that 'people say so'. Do actually people say like that? Do you too think like that? What is the actual relevance of this statement to this story?
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I think the statement is very much relevant, as its opposite is proven (fictional theory) in the story. After reading this the easily suggestible ones will actually believe it and think that multiple possibilities of day to day scenarios are running in multiple universes. Even a less suggestible one will think, is death actually guaranteed in our lives? Or is there something more or beyond that?fridamadrid wrote: ↑07 Jul 2021, 20:17 Death is, in fact, the only thing guaranteed in life. However, I don't think that's something people usually say. Even though I guess we can all agree on it.
According to his theory, after every event in life infinite worldlines are created with all the possibilities of how it could have gone. So, there is always going to be a worldline were you are still living. Like, in some worldlines you will die, but in some you won't, which means we would all be immortal. Nevertheless, I don't think this is too relevant for the development of the story, but it's really cool and crazy to think about it.
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People do not commonly say this, but many believe this and many would agree with it upon hearing it. As I see, the author has just stated a common fact at the beginning of his book and then woven a story which challenges that fact. So, yes, it is intriguing as an opening line.Joseph Dunn wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 10:34 I don't recall ever hearing anyone say this, but in this context, it adds emphasis to the author's proposal that death may be avoided. I find it intriguing as an opening line.
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I disagree. It is true that we have our lives and experience it on a daily basis. But no one can be certain about the coming second, the coming moment. You can be gone from this world at any second by any mean. But here the author shows that death is not an end, but a beginning for different possibilities. So though you are dead in current universe, you may have lived longer, or sometimes even forever in some other universe.Judy_Jemutai7 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 12:54 This statement is not entirely true because death is a possibility but as long as we have life, we are guaranteed of seeing the next day. Death is not a guarantee, it is a one time thing but we have life on a daily basis. It is not relevant to the story.
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I agree. People do various things and try to fulfill various ambitions as they know that death is inevitable and life is short. But what if this quantum immortality is true? Then you won't have to be worried about time being short. Most importantly you do not have to worry in making choices, because in some other universe you will get the opportunity to make a different choice and have a different experience. I see this as a wonderful theory.Caroline81 wrote: ↑08 Jul 2021, 14:26 Yes, people say that and is evident by how they try to make the most of life and i agree with it because there are many possibilities in life but death is inevitable. In relation to the story, its irrelevant with Gary being able to exist in different worldlines.
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We see people die in the story especially those dying young so I this think the author wanted to make a remote connection to this
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Maybe the author was not much serious about this statement and merely included it to arouse suspension. And I think in that aspect the author did a good job. Any reader who start to read this story will prepare his/her mind for something dark and related to death.
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Agreed. Adam seem to argue the opposite. Death isn't guaranteed? Man if it isn't I would live like a god. But everyone knows death is an everyday thing. It is very much guaranteed. In fact, it is inevitably guaranteed.Anelka ky wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 05:32 Where I am from people actually believe that death is the only thing in life that is set in stone and guaranteed. It's an actual saying taught to young people when teaching about the concept of life and death. Personally, I believe death is not only inevitable but guaranteed for everyone. However, the author does not seem to believe that death is guaranteed and uses the statement to set a tone for the rest of the content.
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No, I don't think death is the only thing that is guaranteed. Someone here said life is also guaranteed. Benjamin Franklin said death and taxes are the two things certain in life.
Even in the book, people die even on other worldlines. It never said there was another worldline that takes you into the future or the past. I wonder if Adam Guest will add that to the series?
My understanding is that you live different lives on different worldlines, but it is still the equivalent of one human life....you will age and you will die on all of these worldlines.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Worldlines is a good read. I'm on the second book now!!!
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