Is Garry a good person?

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Gary been good or bad depends on your point of view. Going back few paces before the stabbing, did he actually intend to stab her? No is the answer. He just wanted to hurt her. To answer whether or not Gary is a good person; i think he is, generally, he is.
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I think so, we all once in our life hates someone way to much. As Gary has only fantasize about killing Michelle, and this thing don't make Gray bad person. Each day we all change, some days our behaviour is good and some days our behaviour is bad towards others.
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I was confused on whether the dream state fantasized about this or if it was in his awake state. So it’s hard for me to answer. Based on most of the book, I would say that he is a good person.
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I don't think people are just good or bad. I think we all have a mix of both goodness and badness inside of us. However, I feel like intention is what really matters, sometimes even more than how the things we actually do turn out, and I don't think wanting to kill someone ever comes from a good place. Of course sometimes we don't want those who hurt us the be the happiest and most successful, but it is certainly not the same as actively imagine ourselves murdering that person.
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DyanaFl wrote: 01 Jul 2021, 11:58 I think there will be a difference in people's personalities in different worldlines, no matter how subtle. Their traits are largely influenced by their circumstances, and Gary from the Black line was a straight up selfish piece of crap. Even fantasizing about killing someone repeatedly does not sound like harmless intrusive thoughts to me, but an insistent dark hatred. However, the other Gary-s were different, or so I would like to believe. Whether they had that potential in them or not, if it doesn't come out significantly, judging them 'bad' would be unfair. Just my opinion.
Hmmm, you change my prespective. Indeed the Gary of black line isnt of an entirely decent personality. I would say the incident from his teenage days really got to him.
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Yes, Gary is a good person because of love. He has been into romantic relationships severally and you cannot be loved in different worlds if you are bad.
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The more i think about it, the more i think this is a complicated question. There is a thin line between good and bad. For Gary to be a person, the observer only has to see him as good and justified. Gary being good or bad is just an opinion and it varies by point of view.
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I think Gary is a good person, in every worldline. If we talk about Gary from the black line, he's just someone who became bitter because of his trauma. But I don't think it made him vindictive, just cynical. His cynicism made him dream about killing Michelle, but he would never have actually done it.
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Elendu Ekechukwu wrote: 03 Jul 2021, 07:47 I still consider Gary a good person. I wouldn't say just because he imagined or fantasized about killing Michelle he is now a bad person. In our mind no matter how good we still have evil thoughts .
Indeed we all do. I mean who doesn't some times imagine brutally hurting someone who did wrong to you? Generally, Gary of black line seems broken. He is also sensitive and truth be told, he didnt start lucid dreaming in other to kill Michelle in his mind. He just wanted her hurt. Bad.
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Thoughts one gets in life such as "steal that" or "kill him", aren't actually us. These are called intrusive thoughts. The difference between a good and bad person is the good person doesn't listen to these thoughts. However, you could tell this wasn't simply a fleeting thought, and Gary actually dwelled on the thought of killing Michelle. Therefore, I would say Gary isn't a "good" person, but he could have been far worse.
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This is just a fantasy, and our minds are capable of fantasising about many scary or horrible things. I don't think we should consider him a bad person only because of a fantasy he had. Yet, deciding if a person is 'good' or 'bad' is quite subjective and a vague concept.
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Taking a generalized look at Gary (black line), he is the same as the other Garys. The only difference is that black line Gary is the traumatized version of the others. Technically, there are the same person. Just that one was unlucky to have been hit. That doesn't change the fact that he I still Gary, and Gary is a good guy.
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Imagining to kill someone is not the same as doing it. I wouldn't call Black Line Gary as 'good' but won't as even 'absolutely evil'. People can never be classified as merely good or bad though, they have their moments.
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He is not a bad person although his thoughts are disturbing. In the end, they were just thoughts. Nothing is clear really but he's not the best person either.
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Hunter_T wrote: 07 Jul 2021, 12:20 I was confused on whether the dream state fantasized about this or if it was in his awake state. So it’s hard for me to answer. Based on most of the book, I would say that he is a good person.
Thinking in your prespective, its kinda confusing. Before he started dreaming, he just wanted to hurt her. It was his darkest fantasy. Now in his dream state, in theory (at least one of them), dreams are an extension of our fantasies, memories, and like in this story, a path to another worldline. In short, i would say the supposedly unintentiona but deliberate stabbing came from his darkest fantasies and fuelled by his lucid dream state.
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