Fate?
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Re: Fate?
The least i could say about fate being a thing in this book; fate is not what we think it is, it is as dynamic as it is concrete. In short, fate might just be the outcome of our actions.
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How can it ALL be predetermined? That is really hardcore if you ask me. Does that mean Mitchelle dying in the blue and green line while living inthe red and black line; all this is predetermined? The entirety of human decisiins in an infinite scenerios are predetermined? Then, where is free will?Nithilah Ayyappan wrote: ↑06 Jul 2021, 11:49 I do think the author believed in fate and the set path of life. And to be honest I do as well, because what else can be the reason for the events of our lives. Some say our decisions facilitate our life, but I believe our decisions are also written into fate, and there are predetermined paths for each life on Earth.
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I suppose you are right. Not everything has a different outcome. Sometimes, no matter what some certain things always happen. I guess thats what fate is, isn't it?Chloe Adams wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 14:36 Personally I think the author does believe in fate because in other books or movies and so on that involve a multiverse or similar gimmick the characters always have a way around unfavourable outcomes. Whereas in here some outcomes can't be changed or escaped from.
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I believe the author understands that there isn't a definite way to avoid failure as avoidance in one worldline means some other worldline is paying the price. So by fate, if you mean that our fate is to be met regardless of how much we try to avoid itRaluca_Mihaila wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 02:33 Do you think that the author believed in fate? No matter what Garry chose there were some converging points from every universe. Some outcomes were the same, no matter what Garry or the other people chose to do.
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I do like the fact that the author has certain things that can't be changed in his book though. That adds to the realism of it all, as fate is something that exists even in the real world. So to have events that can't be altered in the book was a great addition and homage to fate. There's no way he doesn't believe in fate.yomide wrote: ↑25 Jul 2021, 06:02I suppose you are right. Not everything has a different outcome. Sometimes, no matter what some certain things always happen. I guess thats what fate is, isn't it?Chloe Adams wrote: ↑19 Jul 2021, 14:36 Personally I think the author does believe in fate because in other books or movies and so on that involve a multiverse or similar gimmick the characters always have a way around unfavourable outcomes. Whereas in here some outcomes can't be changed or escaped from.
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I think that the reason some outcomes were the same had more to do with the fact that the characters were the same. Even with the differences, the essential motives and characteristics of a person in different world lines are the same.Raluca_Mihaila wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 02:33 Do you think that the author believed in fate? No matter what Garry chose there were some converging points from every universe. Some outcomes were the same, no matter what Garry or the other people chose to do.
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Yes, but look at what happened to blueline!Gary! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time, rooting for him, because he did everything he could. In the end, he still got convicted while another version of him in another worldline was found not guilty. It's true that it's their actions and decisions that lead them to their respective circumstances, but there's also other factors that come into play—and one of the words you could use is "fate."
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Of course, it's not just fate. The author didn't go through all that trouble to explain the physics and thought process behind the multiverse just for everything to rely on fate. We know that every little event leads to another, leads to a bigger picture of the situation. The outcomes, though... I guess that's where "fate" comes in.Nathaniel Owolabi wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 04:39 I agree that the author believes in fate. However, I do not think the book is completely based on fate, especially because it showed the results of the decision made by Gary. so there might be some element of fate there but not completely.
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Hmm, that's a good compromise. It is scary to think that there's just a fixed end for us... like what if it's tragic or unsatisfying? But there's no point in dwelling on it, anyway. We should just focus on the things that we can control and do our best.Ldpuff wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 08:03 Fate is a tricky concept for me. I do believe the author believes in it, yes. The linkage between actions and outcome was obvious. For me, I have a hard time believing that no matter what actions I take, the path is already laid out for me. I prefer to think there is a general plan for me, but I have control over the details.
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Even if he made different decisions and actions, there was no way for him to know which decisions or actions were going to lead him to not be found guilty. It was meant to be, though, because no matter how he was at proving that he was innocent, he still got convicted while his version in another worldline got out. I guess that was "fate."Unsullied wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 08:23 I agree with you to some extent that the author believes in fate. The fact that Garry could have made several different decisions that could have had totally different outcomes but chose to do what he did in reality is testament of fate. It was what was meant to be.
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