No matter how i look at this, i think he made the right decision. If anyone belived him was another case entirely, the endgame was naver to be vindicated, it was to prove his innocence so the police would look for the real culprit, at least he wil. No matter what, Gary will look for Gary-blackline.Anna Bookowski wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 09:35 Do you think Gary should plead guilty or not? His father advised him to do so in order to pay respect to Michelle's parents. Mrs. Cohen advised him to plead not guilty as he did not remember his actions. Gary in prison was sure he did not commit the crime, but whether he was in control of his actions or not, he did commit the murder. What do you think?
Do you think Gary should plead guilty in court?
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Re: Do you think Gary should plead guilty in court?
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I totally agree with that. If he would plead guilty, the only result would be that they would look at him like he was a murderer. Michelle's parents would demand reasons, and we need to remember that Gary was not some random guy dating their daughter - they knew him for years. It would be only more painful for them if he would admit to murdering her. Claiming not guilty leaves at least some space for what's unclear. Even if they would not believe Gary's explanation, they could blame his mental state or anything, but not think about him as if he was some kind of heartless monster.MsH2k wrote: ↑30 Jul 2021, 23:41 I do not think Gary should plead guilty. In his consciousness, he did not murder Michelle. His body did, but it’s not the same thing. It is kind of like using a defense of “temporary insanity.” It is not paying respect to Michelle’s family to basically lie. Pleading guilty when he did not believe he was guilty will not bring Michelle back, and it really won’t answer her parents’ questions. They would at least know that they did not totally misread Gary and his love for their daughter if he held fast to his innocence. The other testimonies also showed that his state of mind was consistent with someone who thought they were innocent.
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Yeah, after this whole discussion from last weeks I also came to this. It would make no good if he'd plead guilty. However, I'm still concerned about the legal consequences of this all. I guess the only reasonable solution would be to pronounce Gary mentally unstable, otherwise, I don't know... If he would be left free because he claimed to be possessed by other him, it would just open the door for common criminals to use this way of defense in the future, and obviously, this would be disastrous.yomide wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 00:04No matter how i look at this, i think he made the right decision. If anyone belived him was another case entirely, the endgame was naver to be vindicated, it was to prove his innocence so the police would look for the real culprit, at least he wil. No matter what, Gary will look for Gary-blackline.Anna Bookowski wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 09:35 Do you think Gary should plead guilty or not? His father advised him to do so in order to pay respect to Michelle's parents. Mrs. Cohen advised him to plead not guilty as he did not remember his actions. Gary in prison was sure he did not commit the crime, but whether he was in control of his actions or not, he did commit the murder. What do you think?
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However, it would be challenging to prove guilt or innocence. Ideally, the worldlines should not be used as an escape but rather as an inspiration to create better versions of the self.
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Hi! I agree with Gary's choice to plead not guilty. I would have done the same. Have you read the book and asking other people's opinions or are you in the middle? Given how many worldlines there are, there will always be a Gary that is convicted and that (by some miracle is saved) when the trial ends. Don't let the ending prevent you from reading the sequel The Futility of Vengence. I read both and I hope Adam Guest writes a third book.Anna Bookowski wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 09:35 Do you think Gary should plead guilty or not? His father advised him to do so in order to pay respect to Michelle's parents. Mrs. Cohen advised him to plead not guilty as he did not remember his actions. Gary in prison was sure he did not commit the crime, but whether he was in control of his actions or not, he did commit the murder. What do you think?
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I think this surrounds the whole issue of intention. Gary loved Michelle and had no intention of harming her and having no recollections of committing the crime may be a valid reason for him not pleading guilty.Anna Bookowski wrote: ↑01 Jul 2021, 09:35 Do you think Gary should plead guilty or not? His father advised him to do so in order to pay respect to Michelle's parents. Mrs. Cohen advised him to plead not guilty as he did not remember his actions. Gary in prison was sure he did not commit the crime, but whether he was in control of his actions or not, he did commit the murder. What do you think?
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Hi! I disagree with the line of thought that the only reason Gary should plead guilty is to pay respect to Michelle's family. The family is never going to forgive Gary for the murder. The brief satisfaction they would receive from hearing the verdict is not going to bring Michelle back from the dead.
All he would do by pleading guilty would be an admission of guilt for a crime he did not commit. I have heard of plea-bargains but those are usually, "plead guilty and we will charge you will a different crime so you receive a lighter sentence" or "death penalty VS life in prison with the possibility of parole at X number of years." In those cases, Gary's choosing to plead guilty might be to preserve his life and worthy of consideration. I am glad he did not plead guilty because he did not commit the crime. How he will prove it, as is mentioned in the story, will be a miracle and appears impossible.
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