You're right. Maybe the first book has been made Gary-centric to grab the attention of the reader and not confuse him. Plus, not adding more plot twists in the first book leaves more for the sequels which I'm looking forward to.Anilllll wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 04:24 How can one believe that there is a different variant of the other and everything they do will impact the other also, but in this book, Gary's other variants are not much affected by the murder of Michelle and what about the character's variants? I think the author missed some of the storylines because he wanted the book to be well understood by the readers.
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I agree. The worldlines became accessible to Gary only when he was lucid dreaming. Otherwise, the worldlines were not accessible to him. The worldlines had to be similar inorder for readers to understand exactly what was happening.yomide wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 11:11 I m not so sure about this. But as far as i know, the other worldlines (variants as you called them) are not really impacted by the other. What the author suggested was that the impact can only be made while lucid dreaming or hallucinating or maybe literally dreaming.
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Uuuh... I don't think this was how the author intended the story to be. What happens in one worldline (or variant, as you called it) will not affect the others. However, the characters in the story found out that they could crossover to the other worldlines through lucid dreaming... and that's how all the mess started. If they don't do anything drastic while lucid dreaming or they don't lucid dream at all, all should be fine.Anilllll wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 04:24 How can one believe that there is a different variant of the other and everything they do will impact the other also, but in this book, Gary's other variants are not much affected by the murder of Michelle and what about the character's variants? I think the author missed some of the storylines because he wanted the book to be well understood by the readers.
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You're totally right. I think OP was confused about the plot? I clarified it for them. It has to be lucid dreaming, meaning they have to be aware that they are dreaming and therefore can control the events that will follow.yomide wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 11:11 I m not so sure about this. But as far as i know, the other worldlines (variants as you called them) are not really impacted by the other. What the author suggested was that the impact can only be made while lucid dreaming or hallucinating or maybe literally dreaming.
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I'm still confused about your questions, to be honest. Of course, he emphasized Gary, he's the main character, afterall. Also, we saw how different the other side characters were in the other worldlines. And since this is a work of science fiction, the author has creative authority to twist the science facts to make it more interesting and more fitting to how he wants the story to go.
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I think OP was trying to ask about something else...? I'm confused, too. He said he was comparing the multiverse theory to the author's story. But yeah, there wouldn't be any effect on the worldlines unless the characters were lucid dreaming and did unspeakable things while on another worldline.Anna Bookowski wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 07:21 As a matter of fact, the author didn't emphasize most of Gary's worldlines, but only a few out of infinite possible ones. Extremely small selection, to be precise.
And I'm not sure how the actions of one of the Garys would be supposed to impact the others while there was no contact among them. If the universe would work that way, that would be quite a mess... The only one he impacted, as @yomide said, was in the case when he was lucid dreaming and acted in the name of the other self.
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Adding more characters and giving them major storylines wouldn't exactly make it fast-paced, although the author could do that too. I'm not sure if it would be possible, but I bet it would be difficult to write. It would be a mess to read if not done properly. But if it was successful, it could be more intriguing than it already is.
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The author could have worked to make it both cohesive and interesting. Cut most of the low-impact scenes and plotlines, add in something new, or focus on something different. I don't know what it could have been. If I did, I'd write a book. But I think it could have been way better. And definitely a lot of work.Anilllll wrote: ↑18 Jul 2021, 04:18That makes sense! If more than one character worldines will do some impact then it would have been a mess and to understand it will be a real task for the reader.ROSEYANN wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 19:58Multiverse works well when considering only one person impacting the other worldlines. Imagine the to difficulty involved in more than one of the characters impacting each worldline. The story would really be fast paced. Maybe intriguing for some readers.Anna Bookowski wrote: ↑17 Jul 2021, 07:21
As a matter of fact, the author didn't emphasize most of Gary's worldlines, but only a few out of infinite possible ones. Extremely small selection, to be precise.
And I'm not sure how the actions of one of the Garys would be supposed to impact the others while there was no contact among them. If the universe would work that way, that would be quite a mess... The only one he impacted, as @yomide said, was in the case when he was lucid dreaming and acted in the name of the other self.
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You may be right, but If they can control it then why Gary killed Michelle?lavkathleen wrote: ↑29 Jul 2021, 03:28You're right. I think OP was confused about the plot? I clarified it for them. It has to be lucid dreaming, meaning they have to be aware that they are dreaming and therefore can control the events that will follow.yomide wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 11:11 I m not so sure about this. But as far as i know, the other worldlines (variants as you called them) are not really impacted by the other. What the author suggested was that the impact can only be made while lucid dreaming or hallucinating or maybe literally dreaming.
And if they are aware of the fact that they are dreaming so how will he take revenge and to whom if he's the only one who killed Michelle, in the sequel of the book?
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I got that clarification, I was comparing the multiverse theory to the author's story to see how the author had elaborated the story of worldlines! I've studied a little bit the theory of multiverse so, for me, It'll be amazing to see other characters worldlines also getting affected. But it would be a mess and chaotic!lavkathleen wrote: ↑29 Jul 2021, 03:35I'm still confused about your questions, to be honest. Of course, he emphasized Gary, he's the main character, afterall. Also, we saw how different the other side characters were in the other worldlines. And since this is a work of science fiction, the author has the creative authority to twist the science facts to make it more interesting and more fitting to how he wants the story to go.
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I guess what Anilllll is trying to do is plain comparison. If so, the author clearly cant say much more than he did about other characters given that he wrote from Gary POV. Besides Gary is the main concentrationlavkathleen wrote: ↑29 Jul 2021, 03:35I'm still confused about your questions, to be honest. Of course, he emphasized Gary, he's the main character, afterall. Also, we saw how different the other side characters were in the other worldlines. And since this is a work of science fiction, the author has creative authority to twist the science facts to make it more interesting and more fitting to how he wants the story to go.
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Yes, Exactly! The author can't do much about other character worldlines as it needs to be Gary to focus on otherwise it'll be hard to put everything in a manner to write it down that will understand by the readers nicely.yomide wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 01:04I guess what Anilllll is trying to do is plain comparison. If so, the author clearly cant say much more than he did about other characters given that he wrote from Gary POV. Besides Gary is the main concentrationlavkathleen wrote: ↑29 Jul 2021, 03:35I'm still confused about your questions, to be honest. Of course, he emphasized Gary, he's the main character, afterall. Also, we saw how different the other side characters were in the other worldlines. And since this is a work of science fiction, the author has creative authority to twist the science facts to make it more interesting and more fitting to how he wants the story to go.
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As far as I remember the death was caused due to black line's Gary's skills of lucid dreaming and other actions do not impact other worldlines.Anilllll wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 04:24 How can one believe that there is a different variant of the other and everything they do will impact the other also, but in this book, Gary's other variants are not much affected by the murder of Michelle and what about the character's variants? I think the author missed some of the storylines because he wanted the book to be well understood by the readers.
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Thats what my opinion is and I think in the sequel the Author will be using lucid dreaming a lot more maybe take it to next level to try and free convicted garry.yomide wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 11:11 I m not so sure about this. But as far as i know, the other worldlines (variants as you called them) are not really impacted by the other. What the author suggested was that the impact can only be made while lucid dreaming or hallucinating or maybe literally dreaming.