Never confuse lust for anything other than what it is, do you agree?
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Re: Never confuse lust for anything other than what it is, do you agree?
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Zia went to Baxter to get what she did not get from Bryce; the sexual ssatisfaction. So to start it was pure lust. I agree. But I doubt whether later on she developed something emotional towards Bax, as it is revealed how guilty she felt about what she was doing, to fulfill her physical needs. Maybe it was simply lust for her and she might have well understood it from the beginning.cluetop wrote: ↑06 Aug 2021, 12:30 Personally, I thought I saw Zia develop a level of true romantic connection through her lust. Her affair afforded her the one thing her relationship could not: physical intimacy, and I believe that, at least to a certain extent, she created a true emotional connection with the person giving her what she needed. So, while I see your point, I think that, in this case, lust became more than just lust.
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I think you are telling about the relationship between Zia and Baxter. Yes, seemingly there was no romance but passion and lust. It seems like even Zia too confused that for romance at the beginning. But later on she has become aware of this fact and even enlighten the reader regarding that fact. And we see how she feel guilty when she get the chance to just fulfill her lust through a random person.Katie Canedy wrote: ↑06 Aug 2021, 15:38 I agree with the author regarding this statement. In religion, more specifically the Bible, there are discussions about what lust is and why it is terrible. Now I do think that there can be lust when someone has been in a relationship with someone for a long time, but normally it is mixed with love and affection. Regarding Zia, I think that she definitely has more lust involved than anything else. I know this because of how her and Bryce's relationship has progressed so far; it seems to be based on nothing but sexual desire.
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It is questionable whether she was fully confused in between the concepts of lust and romance. But, I agree, yes she was sexually starved and it made her to crave sexual desires. And that led her to begin a relationship based on lust with Baxter. It fulfilled her desires, but later on it is Zia who says the above quote and ask the reader not to confuse lust with anything else.Chimuka Muungo wrote: ↑07 Aug 2021, 03:19 Zia was definetely confused by lust because in her love relationship with Bryce she was sexually starved. So it was easy to her sexual desires to take control over her.
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I think that physical attraction leading to a romantic relationship is true for Zia and Bryce's relationship as well. We see how both of them are turned towards the other at the first occasion when they were alone. It says even Zia's vaginal muscles reacted to that. And later on we see that there is no sexual relationship in between them, but pure love and romance.
But when Zia turned towards Baxter her lust confused her and made her mind into a turmoil, not letting her see what is correct and what is wrong. But that bad experience led her to see that lust is just lust at the end.
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Well said. Yes, Zia was blinded by lust. Her character qualities show that she was not well aware or does not show much attention to her surroundings. But when it came to Baxter she could not see who he really was as her lust blinded everything else. Maybe she saw that lust as lust, but she could not see anything other than lust. And that was the cause for her downfall. And ironically the author uses Zia's mouth to say the above words, telling not to confuse lust for anything else to the reader.Jessica045 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2021, 15:30 It is sad that, "call a spade, a spade". Lust is Lust and should not be painted as anything else. Zia's inability to detect the dark side of her lover clearly showed that she did not think things through but was only after the flesh.
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As I get it you are trying to tell that Zia cannot be trusted. Yes, you have a point, and through the sequel Bryce might happen to witness this and then he will regret on forgiving her. Yes, you cannot be confused when it come to either love or lust. Seemingly Zia confused that at the beginning with Bryce. She had lustful feelings at first but ended up loving him. For Baxter also she started the relationship in a professional level and then it went towards lust. Seemingly Zia has mixed up a lot.malik khaizran wrote: ↑08 Aug 2021, 13:39 Lust and love are two different aspects of life .one can not confuse lust for love. Lust was a very important feature of the story.I am agreed with the writer on that statement. And I think this statement has a great meaning in it . You will never spend your money on an item you are confused about then how can trust someone and experimentally had sex."Never confuse lust for anything other than what it is. There isn’t a man alive that wouldn’t gladly take what you are so willing to offer."
(Epigraph 2, Location 53 of Kindle version)
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Yes, Zia felt both emotions and she loved both feelings. But as she cheated on Bryce to fulfill her sexual needs I think lust was more important to her. She wanted to explore her sexual desires and in that occasion she put love below lust. Who knows, maybe she never confused the two emotions, but always had in mind what she was doing and did only what she wanted whether it was ethically correct or wrong. But towards the end when Zia starts to see sleeping with a random guy is wrong, it is the reader who ultimately gets confused.
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Zia was motivated by lust even in the first encounter with Bryce. We clearly see (or the author has clearly shown) how even her sexual organs reacted. But later on it converted in to romance, and we see how there was no lust at all in that relationship. But Zia still harboured that lust and she needed to fulfill it, and her choice was to go to Baxter, where there was only lust but no love at all. Doesn't that simply prove lust is just lust?Uzoma Kalu wrote: ↑09 Aug 2021, 19:47 I don't subscribe to the idea that lust is lust and nothing more. However, I would agree that in this book Zia was motivated by lust most of the times. So, for Zia my answer is yes, lust was bad for her character.
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Well said. Lust can be accompanied by anything, but that does not convert lust into anything else. It remains as lust. The mistakes are made when lust is confused with love, as Zia did. Bryce loved Zia, but she needed her relationship to be passionate. As Bryce was not ready to give her that she went to Baxter, who had his own plans but was passionate and skilled when it came to sex. Finally Zia found a place to satisfy her lust, but she confused it as love and ended up getting entangled in a love triangle making her life a mess.Chetna_123 wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 02:50 I agree with the author. Lust is just lust if not accompanied by love, emotions, and feelings. However, in the present story lust is the main driving force for the progression of the story as the main character Zia fell prey to lust. In real life also lust is often confused with other feelings and not accepted as what it is.