Rion's problem in social mingling, was it because of him or his mother?

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I won't exactly describe Rion as an introvert. He had no problem speaking up when questioned by the teacher and he had a good flow with Dee as well. His circumstances made it difficult to cultivate long term friendships.
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I think Rion's introversion was a consequence of multiple factors ,most importantly his mother's overprotectiveness. Rion was not properly socialized at home ,i.e. nurturing on how to form and maintain functional relationships and this may have played an important part in his unnatural desire to stay aloof and failure in attempts to relate with society. For me ,the frequent travels merely reinforced an attitude developed earlier.
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Rion's mother cannot be blamed for introverted nature of his son. First, it wasn't her will to be migrating from one location to another, which resulted to Rion's changing the school after a very short period of time. Secondly, according to me, Rion played major role in building his nature. He could have taken it positively, and make many friends as possible.
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Rio'n's introvert nature was brought about by his mother who kept moving from place to place hence, not allowing him to make friends whenever he joined a new school. Moreover, when you look at it in another perspective, you'll realize that Rion's mother had no choice rather to do what she did: trying to make ends meet.
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Yes, his mother's overprotectiveness may have induced some introverted nature. But it is equally true that a teenager always tries to come out of his comfort zone and that is what I felt Rion is trying to do. He had several short-term friendships yet he may not find the perfect fit resulting in isolation. So, I may not solely blame his mother for issues in social mingling.
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I think multiple factors contributed to Rion's isolated existence. The largest influence is his nature. Rion's abilities made him wildly different. For a teenager figuring out who he is and his place in the world, being so different and thinking you were the only one with the difference must have been harrowing and isolating. Also, constantly moving makes making long-term connections difficult to create and maintain. Therefore, I think Rion's nature and the circumstances created by his mother's job contributed to Rion's loneliness and social isolation.
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Rion's character is very relatable. I do not like having friends because I cannot handle the hurt of losing them. I think that is what Rion was battling with although there were other factors.
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I think Rion's social mingling problem is not the mother's fault. This is because, Social mingling is more of personal attribute than acquired attribute. Teachers and parents can only guide. Its left for the child to discover his or her social mingling abilities.
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Ethan Howe wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 00:33 I think that having special powers caused him the problems and made him fear that other people will see him as a stranger. His mothers failure to motivate and talk to him about his powers also caused this.
I agree with this train of thought. He was going through a lot, things that could have caused even the most extroverted kids to become introverts. However, he does not strike me as a character who was ever extroverted. It seems he has always been a shy person regardless of his many issues. I have the same temperament so I can relate to this behavior.
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I think Rion's problem with social mingling is largely because of his nature/abilities. It's hard enough to figure things out as a normal teenager, add superhuman abilities and the situation becomes more complex. It's hard for a teenager who feels so different (like an alien) to find themselves and their place among other people. The lack of mutual communication between Rion and his mother and the relocatons only made the situation worse.
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I agree with those saying it is because of too much moving, yeah! It's not always easy adjusting to a new environment and it's even harder trying to make new friends.. So this influenced Rion character
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I don't quite think he is to blame for it. I believe when you move around so much, it's simply too much of an effort to socialize and make new friends each time.
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I don't think as a teenager your mom should help you socialise. Rion enjoyed his own company, so I wouldn't blame the mom. Though she would have tried forcing him to make friends
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I think Rion's nature is more attributable to his mother than to himself. The constant movement most likely deprived him of his ability to form bonds for the long term. Given enough time in any location, Rion could have definitely made some new friends and at least be more open to that circle of friends than he turned out to be towards people in general.
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Sushan wrote: 03 Sep 2021, 00:37
Omega_01 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 15:18 Changing of schools and the environment as a whole may be a factor responsible for Rion being a lonely fellow but a support system like his mum or teacher at school would have assisted him to gain some courage and the attitude he needed to overcome the challenge.
I don't think a teenager need any assistance from his family or teachers to make new friends. One can be a less forward fellow, but a few days time is enough to make new friends. Seemingly Rion has chosen to isolate himself by even sitting at the back corner, looking out the window, clearly refusing any contact. So others may have left him be alone, and it has made him forever alone.
Perhaps Rion is aware of he and his mother's nomad history and realizes that any relationships he forms may be transient and would be a needles consumption of his emotional energy. Perhaps, sitting at the back, isolating himself, and being insignificant was more of a coping mechanism than an intentional action meant to drive others away from him?
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