Student fragility and the Government sovereignty.

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I was just getting ready to enter my freshman year at college when the Kent State killings happened. At the time, I was too naive to think this could happen at our small, private campus. And it didn't. There were protests against the Vietnam War all over the country, but Kent State was an anomaly; students were not getting killed at other schools. However, I think you are right that students are on the receiving end of government decisions. At that time, all the guys I knew were watching the draft, and it was like spinning a big roulette wheel to see who would be sent to Vietnam to be injured or die. It must have felt like they truly did not have control over the trajectory of their lives. There, in Vietnam, was the real threat, and most disagreed there was any reason to be involved in that war, while others were adamant that it was our American duty to fight. The emotion and tension ran so very high. In that era, unlike others, we could see everything on television where the media could stir the pot in a very big way, fueling the conflict at home over this war just like it does today.
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Students are among the most vulnerable in the population, as they aren't usually equipped to deal with too many hardships; that's not meant as a slight, but because they are usually young, they tend to still be dependent on the adults in their lives for so much. They are definitely some of those most affected in times of unrest.
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Mismanagement at the political level and students bearing the brunt of it for raising their voices against injustice is not just the theme of this book, but also the prevalent scenario in today's world where most of the countries cannot stand the voice of democracy.
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Matilda jack wrote: 01 Aug 2022, 10:34 While reading Wild World and its first review, It occured to me that students are mosttimes on the receiving end of whatever thing that the government does. If a war, strike, or shutdown is declared by the government (irrespective of the country), the students' life trajectory will be greatly affected to the point of death. In respect to the killing of students within this book, what do you think?
I think the government affects all of its citizens in this case, not just the young or students. Yes, they may be affected in a higher proportion. But, one might even say that someone in their mid-life, with homes, jobs, and children are even more affected. Of course, anyone who loses their life gave the highest sacrifice for sure. However, everyone that lives in the country loses when the government is at war.
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I think you make a very interesting point. I believe that government actions affect a whole lot more people than just students but I do agree that their actions can hugely change their lives. The tragic deaths of these students do serve as an important reminder of how easily someone's whole life can be turned upside down for some might say a pointless reason.
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It’s sad that those students were killed. You are absolutely right that students always seem to receive the short end of the stick. Student also make some brilliant activists to and can drive change, albeit becoming collateral damages most times.
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That this book's accuracy is accurate is so tragic. Students end up being the ones that suffer from the bad decisions the government makes. The worst thing about it is that they, the students, can't do anything about it.
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I wholeheartedly concur with you. This is because most pupils lack any form of assistance and are dependent on adults for guidance because they have not yet developed sufficiently to be autonomous, particularly psychologically. Therefore, it is the responsibility of the adults, including the leaders, to provide effective leadership.
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At times institutions like the universities become a target of governments as mostly this is where dissent begins. And even those on lower levels are greatly affected because of disruptions in the school calendar
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I agree with you. In the end, it is the students that bear the brunt.
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I completely agree. Students and the younger generations are often greatly impacted by the decisions of the government including war. Even if a war is relatively short-term, there are many long-term impacts that often last for years. The economic impacts and societal discourse are often left to the students and younger population to solve even though they had no decision making that got us into this in the first place.
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Sumto Nii wrote: 01 Aug 2022, 21:23 In my country, the government hates protests and anything that tends to point out their misdeeds. As a former student leader, I was arrested and intimidated by the government. All they wanted was to gag me. When they can't gag you, they unleash violence. I have led protests where we were beaten and molested by security agents on the orders of government. So, in my country, student unionism is an attack on the government.
I'm so sorry you had to go through this sumto. Sadly the same is the case in my country. I think government do these because they think students are young and therefore, easier to oppress.
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Matilda jack wrote: 01 Aug 2022, 10:34 While reading Wild World and its first review, It occured to me that students are mosttimes on the receiving end of whatever thing that the government does. If a war, strike, or shutdown is declared by the government (irrespective of the country), the students' life trajectory will be greatly affected to the point of death. In respect to the killing of students within this book, what do you think?
This is very true. In my country, a strike action has prevented students from attending school for about 5 months. And it's quite sad that these students can't protest for fear of arrest.
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I am to agree with you on this matter and the good thing that this book is historical making people to use it to reflect on the future of thier children in schools. This way of treating the innocent students in not acceptable and requires to be stoped in many countries whete it occurs. I think the killings in this book also bring out these killings as how they happen in reality.
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I definitely agree with your conclusion. The cause of effect of students during wars and the way they are subjected to the whims of governments is very sad. Learning about different wars throughout time in school I definitely recognized the pattern of students’ lives and educations being hindered due to the decisions made by the adults.
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