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Working *just* for money.
I personally think he is speaking from a place of obvious privilege (as someone who doesn’t have to worry about money anymore), if he looks down on people who only work for a paycheck.
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I also think it depends on the kind of job someone has. If someone works for something they believe in with their whole heart, I believe they are working for more than money. But honestly, money is always the number one reason why people work, rich or poor both.
I bet if you ask anyone if they would work if they didn’t HAVE TO, they would all answer no.
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However, we're all aware that everyone is not privileged to finding a job of their passion, that also puts food on their table.
So, from the world of reality, it's usually very rare to find such an opportunity and people can't go hungry.
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To your point, I would struggle to do a job I hate, full time!Ms Chet wrote: ↑02 Jul 2023, 08:18 Having more altruistic reasons for working is very essential, as it promotes high productivity in the part of the employee.
However, we're all aware that everyone is not privileged to finding a job of their passion, that also puts food on their table.
So, from the world of reality, it's usually very rare to find such an opportunity and people can't go hungry.
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I agree with you totally. When anyone has a privilege of choice, they put in thought and weigh their options. But, when you have less power and fewer options for some reason, you have no ground to think but to do it anyways. The same is the case here. Ask a poor ma why he is a street vendor. Of course the person is going to say that he needs money and that he doesn't know what else to do or he doesn't have other required resources to move to a better job.Emily Meadows wrote: ↑24 Jun 2023, 10:54 In the book, the author scoffs at the idea that employees should work for money. He wants his employees to have more altruistic reasons for working, or at least to have passion for their jobs. What do people think about this?
I personally think he is speaking from a place of obvious privilege (as someone who doesn’t have to worry about money anymore), if he looks down on people who only work for a paycheck.
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However, the world needs some people who do. That is how technology advances. I, for one, don't love what I do but I like it in general. I sought out the career I'm in. I've also had the experience of not liking what I did, and it was a former career that I "fell" into. The former career happened because of my lack of options, due to not having yet had a college degree. After receiving the college degree, a new world was opened to me and I could navigate it like I never could before. It was nice to choose for once.
This is a long, drawn out way of saying I agree that it is privilege that allows people to love what they do and have altruistic dreams. Still, only so many people can follow that path. I'd be willing to bet more people like what they do than love it. Meaning that they're not necessarily over-the-moon about it, but enjoy it enough to feel some sort of satisfaction. I'd bet even more that most people don't like what they do at all, but care more about what the money can do for them. That goes for the rich and the poor. Everyone is working towards a common goal: survival. This is also why it's best to have hobbies outside of work. You likely won't find complete happiness in your job.
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The author had the right intent but came off as tone deaf to me. I totally agree with what you wrote here. I also worry that our collective kids grow up thinking that they have to love their career or they won’t do it. Ideally there is love for the career. But if not - that’s okay - earn your money and then fill the rest of your bucket up with things you love.Jessica Cole 3 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2023, 20:15 You can't expect some people to work for more than money. For instance, I would hesitate to think a janitor or gas station attendant would love their jobs. Not saying this is impossible, but highly unlikely. It would make sense that they look at it as a mere means to put food on their tables and keep a roof over their heads. Everyone can't love what they do.
However, the world needs some people who do. That is how technology advances. I, for one, don't love what I do but I like it in general. I sought out the career I'm in. I've also had the experience of not liking what I did, and it was a former career that I "fell" into. The former career happened because of my lack of options, due to not having yet had a college degree. After receiving the college degree, a new world was opened to me and I could navigate it like I never could before. It was nice to choose for once.
This is a long, drawn out way of saying I agree that it is privilege that allows people to love what they do and have altruistic dreams. Still, only so many people can follow that path. I'd be willing to bet more people like what they do than love it. Meaning that they're not necessarily over-the-moon about it, but enjoy it enough to feel some sort of satisfaction. I'd bet even more that most people don't like what they do at all, but care more about what the money can do for them. That goes for the rich and the poor. Everyone is working towards a common goal: survival. This is also why it's best to have hobbies outside of work. You likely won't find complete happiness in your job.
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Very good point about the kids. I remember hearing this quote so often growing up "If you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life." It's fed to kids all the time. I grew up thinking that was how life was for everyone, until I realized better. Also, life humbled me. I think Gen Z has grown up with the idea of loving what you do the most, because of social media making them think people are better off or happier than they actually are. But I digress. The last line you wrote sums what should be done, perfectly.Emily Meadows wrote: ↑06 Jul 2023, 10:42The author had the right intent but came off as tone deaf to me. I totally agree with what you wrote here. I also worry that our collective kids grow up thinking that they have to love their career or they won’t do it. Ideally there is love for the career. But if not - that’s okay - earn your money and then fill the rest of your bucket up with things you love.Jessica Cole 3 wrote: ↑05 Jul 2023, 20:15 You can't expect some people to work for more than money. For instance, I would hesitate to think a janitor or gas station attendant would love their jobs. Not saying this is impossible, but highly unlikely. It would make sense that they look at it as a mere means to put food on their tables and keep a roof over their heads. Everyone can't love what they do.
However, the world needs some people who do. That is how technology advances. I, for one, don't love what I do but I like it in general. I sought out the career I'm in. I've also had the experience of not liking what I did, and it was a former career that I "fell" into. The former career happened because of my lack of options, due to not having yet had a college degree. After receiving the college degree, a new world was opened to me and I could navigate it like I never could before. It was nice to choose for once.
This is a long, drawn out way of saying I agree that it is privilege that allows people to love what they do and have altruistic dreams. Still, only so many people can follow that path. I'd be willing to bet more people like what they do than love it. Meaning that they're not necessarily over-the-moon about it, but enjoy it enough to feel some sort of satisfaction. I'd bet even more that most people don't like what they do at all, but care more about what the money can do for them. That goes for the rich and the poor. Everyone is working towards a common goal: survival. This is also why it's best to have hobbies outside of work. You likely won't find complete happiness in your job.