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Dr. Huber States prevention is key to stopping a pandemic.
My parents both got the vaccine. Both still were infected by COVID and became severely I'll.
I did not and have never been infected.
The information about ivermectin, Vitamin D, and other preventative methods Dr. Huber suggests are supposed to strengthen the immune system. Do you think it's better to strengthen the immune system or to vaccinate against, specifically, COVID? " The COVID vaccines have also been observed to damage the human innate immune system, specifically an aspect of our immunity that is necessary."
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Ideally, you should do both. Vaccines do help shield you from the worst side effects, but they don't protect you from being infected in the first place. You also still have to ride out the illness before you can feel better, so strengthening your immune system is the way to go to beat it faster - but it's no replacement for the actual vaccine. The vaccine also doesn't just protect you, but the people around you as well. It's a question of both personal and collective responsibility.
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Since some of those who got the vaccine still got covid, I agree with the author's sentiments that strengthening one's immunity is an appropriate course of action. I'm glad the author went into detail when it comes to preventative methods.
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I think you should do both. Having a good immune system is crucial for fighting off infections. A good balanced diet, adequate sleep, exercise, etc are well known tools to get a good immune system. But immune system alone cannot fight a new bug on its own. Our innate immune system only attacks the bugs that it has encountered before. This is where vaccine comes in, it introduced the bug to your body in a state that is non infectious. Your immune system memorises this new bug and builds a good immune response against it. This means that you need a good immune system for the vaccine to work. Old people do not have a good immune system that's why the vaccine doesn't work that well with them. That's why we give all the essential vaccines during the childhood. It also depends on whether you have any other chronic condition which old people usually have.

I got 2 doses of Covid Vaccine, and I got covid 3 times(I am a medical student who actively worked with Covid + patients in the hospital during covid19). However, in all three times that I tested positive, I got nothing more than a stuffy nose. Same goes for most of my colleagues & friends from med school who got vaccinated. Also, majority of the people that were admitted due to serious respiratory issues in our hospital where either the ones that had some prior respiratory issue(like asthma, Tuberculosis, fibrosis) or those that did not get vaccinated. So in my clinical & personal experience I would definitely go with vaccine + building a solid immune system.

But it's important to remember that Vaccine is not the only solution. You need to have a good immune system in order for a vaccine to work. If you have a shitty immune system vaccines can do nothing for you. Vaccines give your immune system the signal that it need to defend the body against a certain bug, but when your immune system is not working properly that signal given by vaccine is of no use. At the end, its your immune system fighting against the disease, vaccine is just priming the immune system.
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I think a lot of people are misled to think that getting a vaccine means they won't get sick... You can get sick but usually, since your immune system is primed to recognize the virus it can deal with it faster and prevent a serious outbreak.
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I just couldn't believe that the speed that the vaccine was created for an ongoing pandemic was safe. For efficacy, most vaccines have to go through long term trials. The COVID vaccine didn't undergo the stringent testing that it should have. I don't have the best immune system because of my liver enzymes (ALT and AST) are over 100 points above the the maximum level they should be. I am never around people in general; washing my hands and avoiding sick people seems to work best for me.
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Yes, some believe that getting the vaccine provides lifetime immunity from the virus. However, I have doubts about that. The vaccine helps to prevent illness, as the saying goes, "prevention is better than cure."
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The best way to prevent COVID-19 includes a combination of measures: Vaccination specifically protects against COVID-19 and helps reduce the severity of illness if you do get infected. Keeping your immune system strong through good nutrition, regular exercise, and adequate sleep is important for your overall health. Following public health guidelines, such as wearing masks, practicing good hygiene, and social distancing when needed, can help reduce the spread of the virus.
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While some individuals assume that vaccination offers lifelong protection against the virus, I have reservations about that notion. In reality, the vaccine plays a crucial role in preventing illness.
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Some believe the vaccine provides lifetime immunity, but I have doubts. The vaccine helps prevent illness—"prevention is better than cure." It primes the immune system to handle the virus faster and prevent serious outbreaks.
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The decision between strengthening the immune system through methods like ivermectin, Vitamin D, and other supplements versus getting vaccinated for COVID-19 is a complex and highly debated topic.

1. Vaccine Efficacy: COVID-19 vaccines have undergone rigorous testing and large-scale clinical trials to demonstrate their efficacy in preventing severe illness, hospitalization, and death caused by COVID-19. They have been shown to significantly reduce the risk of severe outcomes associated with the virus.

2. Preventative Methods: While strengthening the immune system through supplements like Vitamin D or medications like ivermectin may have potential benefits in supporting overall health and immune function, their specific effectiveness against COVID-19 is still under study. Evidence supporting these methods varies, and they may not provide the same level of protection as vaccines in preventing infection or severe illness from COVID-19.

3. Risk and Benefit: The decision to vaccinate or focus on immune support should consider individual health factors, risk of exposure to COVID-19, and potential side effects of both vaccines and alternative treatments. Vaccination has been a cornerstone of public health strategies to control the spread of infectious diseases historically, including COVID-19.

4. Scientific Consensus: Current scientific consensus, supported by global health organizations like the WHO and CDC, emphasizes vaccination as a crucial tool in combating the COVID-19 pandemic due to its proven efficacy and role in achieving herd immunity.

Ultimately, the choice between strengthening the immune system through supplements and opting for vaccination should be based on informed discussions with healthcare professionals, considering individual health circumstances and weighing the risks and benefits associated with each approach.
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The decision between strengthening the immune system naturally and vaccinating against COVID-19 is a complex one, and it ultimately depends on individual circumstances, including health conditions and personal beliefs.
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I believe the two go hand in hand. Take drugs which would help boost the immune system and also get vaccinated to be on the safer side.
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I strongly believe that the vaccine does more damage than good. I have seen so many cases in my family and near ones who were super fit and had great immunity before taking the vaccine; however, after they took the vaccine, it has disrupted their immunity heavily. I believe natural ways and natural foods work best. The vaccines should have never been rolled out because the number of deaths post vaccination have in fact been higher than the actual Covid deaths in some countries. It is a sad reality!
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