What are your thoughts on the idea that man will experience “omnipresence” in the same manner that God does?

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What are your thoughts on the idea that man will experience “omnipresence” in the same manner that God does?

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The author asserts that all points of time-based existence are continually present to God, who “inhabits eternity” according to Isaiah 57:15 (RSV). Quoting Wisdom 2:23, which states “God created man…in the image of his own eternity” (RSV), the author argues that man was made to experience eternity in a manner like that of God himself. Referencing various biblical prophesies, the author writes that every person will “inhabit eternity” on the day of judgement, at which point everyone will become fully aware of everything that transpired in the temporal realm (i.e., man will experience “omnipresence” in the same manner that God does). What are your thoughts on this idea?
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What happens following the end of time? According to the biblical prophecies that are referenced in the book, we are to be assembled together in the direct presence of God, at which point we will acquire complete knowledge of everything that transpired within time-bound existence, at all points across linear history. This indeed sounds like we will experience omnipresence in a manner like that of God himself. And it makes sense, assuming it's true that God made us in his own "likeness" (Genesis 5:1).
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According to the scripture we are created in God's image and likeness. At the end of time as we know it, I believe we will be eternally with our creator and will be aware and have knowledge of all things.
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There is a famous saying among science enthusiasts which goes as 'All that is universe is within you'. So the concept 'omnipresence' is widely agreeable, pious or not. And being in God's likeness only means everyone can be omnipresent alongside him in an eternal relationship. The factor that whether or not we are in our 'free will' to belong there alters our destination is what the author emphasizes. Self-interest and greed can deviate us from our likeness of God. And the arguments on mortal and immortal realms aid in strengthening the idea.
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I believe that a veil will be lifted and we will become aware of many things that happened in our lives that we weren't aware of during our life on earth. But our knowledge will never be equal to that of our creator, as he will always hold the greater knowledge, and we will never compare to him in this life or the next.
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Yes, we will be more knowledgeable, godlike, and achieve the quality of omnipresence but can not equal to God.
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It is not possible for this to happen. I mean, there is a reason why we are mere men and God is God. I think this answers it.
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The idea that humans could experience "omnipresence" like God suggests that in eternity, we would perceive all moments of time simultaneously, akin to God’s view outside time. This concept hinges on biblical interpretations, such as humans being created "in the image of [God’s] own eternity" (Wisdom 2:23). While it's a bold and intriguing perspective, it may be more metaphorical, emphasizing our eventual transcendence of earthly limitations. It highlights a vision of the afterlife where human awareness expands beyond temporal constraints.
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These are deep points and thoughts. This assertion is possible if God wills it.
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If we think of "omnipresence" metaphorically, technology might allow a form of distributed presence, where we can instantly access knowledge or connect with others worldwide. Still, it's likely that a true, divine omnipresence—being fully present everywhere and in all times and spaces—will remain something beyond our grasp. This question brings up deeper issues of connecting, understanding, and even influencing as humanity progresses.
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I think true omnipresence, in the way God experiences it, is unique to God’s nature. In Christian belief, only God is fully present everywhere at once, with complete knowledge and power. However, in heaven, we may experience a form of deep connection and awareness beyond earthly limitations, which could feel closer to omnipresence. We might be able to perceive more fully, understand more deeply, and connect with God and others in a way that feels expansive, but it wouldn't be on the same infinite level as God's omnipresence.
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John 10:34 King James Version. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? I believe as per scripture that God has given us as humans everything that he is, and not in a distant future, but we can experience even his Omnipresence now, My thoughts are that, just as much as Jesus was connected to God in his earthly ministry, he was Omnipresent because he worshiped the Father in truth and in spirit. We are spirit beings so is God…and Jesus boldly declared that he was one with the father. As the author argues that” we are made to experience”. My thoughts are that this experience is certain and at the point when the flesh is daily put down and we are daily in God’s presence, we can experience this state.
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If we consider "omnipresence" metaphorically, technology could enable a type of distributed presence, allowing us to instantly access knowledge and connect with people across the globe. However, a genuine divine omnipresence—being fully present in all places and at all times—will likely remain out of reach for us. This question raises deeper concerns about connection, understanding, and influence as humanity advances.
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Post by Keturah Larai Gana »

We can NEVER be equal to God but this question raises a rather deeper concerns. This is a truly sore area in Christian belief which states that only God is present at all times and in all places. So yeah, I don't think we can. My view though
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I'm a bit skeptical about theories about "life after death", because they're fiercely all created by men and nobody knows what awaits them in afterlife.
One theory is that the soul strives to achieve "Moksha", when it achieves its purpose and it can take repeated cycles of life and death to get there. The concept of "Moksha", wherein the soul is redeemed from the cycle of life and death makes me question this theory of omnipresence in life, because once the soul is free, it wouldn't remain in the cycle of life.
I'd guess though, that after it's death and before it's rebirth into another life, it would be omnipresent, potentially looking for avenues for growth through which it can achieve Moksha.
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