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Hmmm, I'm not sure how much that aspect of the series is a diversion from Conan Doyle's Holmes. He can be pretty obnoxious in the books.Charlotte Reese wrote:I like BBC's Sherlock although I totally agree with your "Jerk Genius" assessment.If you're looking for modern adaptations, many people have enjoyed the BBC's Sherlock, though I myself haven't quite liked it as much as I wish I could. They play up the "Jerk Genius" aspect of his personality way too much for my liking, so much that it borders on ill humour;
On another note, I've been re-reading the books over the last week or so and it is really re-iterating to me how far they diverge from the conventions of detective fiction (which is not really a criticism, just that they pre-date them) - especially the idea that the reader should at least have a reasonable chance of working out the solution. Not that I think it necessarily detracts from them.
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To me, the closest portrayal I've seen to Doyle's original Sherlock Holmes is Jeremy Brett.
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Personally I find him to be more agreeable in the books than how he is portrayed elsewhere. Also, I'm not sure what other readers might experience with this series. But to me, Sherlock Holmes was more of an interactive book that let me think for myself and try and solve each mystery. Of course this varies with each person.David Dawson wrote: Hmmm, I'm not sure how much that aspect of the series is a diversion from Conan Doyle's Holmes. He can be pretty obnoxious in the books.
On another note, I've been re-reading the books over the last week or so and it is really re-iterating to me how far they diverge from the conventions of detective fiction (which is not really a criticism, just that they pre-date them) - especially the idea that the reader should at least have a reasonable chance of working out the solution. Not that I think it necessarily detracts from them.
That's very interesting. He's eccentric, yes, but I never actually thought of him as having some sort of syndrome or disorder.Alden Loveshade wrote: Recently I saw an article that Sherlock Holmes may have Asperger's Syndrome. He was obsessed with small details, was irritated by the irrational and tried finding a rational explanation for everything, avoided emotional relationships, had only one close friend. I had long thought he showed signs of Bipolar Disorder, so maybe he showed both.
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If by adaptations you are referring to stories written by authors other than Arthur Conan Doyle (and I assume you are) I can tell you now that they are bogus misrepresentations of the character created by the original author. In my own opinion anything written by anyone other than A.C. Doyle is to be dismissed out of hand, for there is no "original series", there is only THE series - everything else is a fraudulent, "monkey with a parasol" attempt by "authors" with apparently no creative talent of their own to capitalize on the genius of A.C. Doyle.A_Velarde23 wrote:
It seems to me that now they have started to concentrate more on his eccentricities and on giving him a romantic life, than on his detective skills. For example, in the original series he states that he has never been in love, that he isn't an admirer of women. He both dislikes and distrusts them, and is even described as more of a machine than a human. Yet in many different adaptations, he is given a romantic life with either one or many partners. It makes me wonder if changes like these are necessary to his story.
I have several adaptations of Sherlock Holmes that I really like, while others, I feel, are steering away from the mystery elements in the original stories. I was wondering if after reading the Sherlock Holmes series, do any of you feel any adaptations, both old or new, did justice to it? Which would you recommend, and do you feel the changes being made to the original are good or bad?
If you are suggesting that in THE original series of works by Arthur Conan Doyle Holmes becomes enamored with members of the female persuasion you are patently wrong. He admired Irene Adler in A Scandal In Bohemia because she bested him ... he was smitten by her brains not her looks. In other stories such as A Case Of Identity or The Copper Beeches Holmes demonstrates his disgust with men who would impose upon the sensitivities of women, but only because in doing so they overstep the bounds of ethics and gallantry, not because he romantically admires the women of these stories.
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DATo wrote: If you are suggesting that in THE original series of works by Arthur Conan Doyle Holmes becomes enamored with members of the female persuasion you are patently wrong. He admired Irene Adler in A Scandal In Bohemia because she bested him ... he was smitten by her brains not her looks. In other stories such as A Case Of Identity or The Copper Beeches Holmes demonstrates his disgust with men who would impose upon the sensitivities of women, but only because in doing so they overstep the bounds of ethics and gallantry, not because he romantically admires the women of these stories.
I think you misunderstood me. I know very well that Sherlock admired Irene for her intelligence and that he was in no way enamored with her or with any other female character. What I meant is that in modern adaptations, such as in TV series, movies, or books, Sherlock is portrayed as being romantically attached to either Irene or other women. Personally I do not like that his character was changed like this because in THE original series, he is clearly against relationships such as these. I'm sorry if what I stated before was a bit confusing for you, I hope this made it clearer.

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I find him less callous and more mannerly in the books. He showed some concern for his clients' welfare so he's not the total "high-functioning sociopath" that the BBC series glorifies.David Dawson wrote:Hmmm, I'm not sure how much that aspect of the series is a diversion from Conan Doyle's Holmes. He can be pretty obnoxious in the books.Charlotte Reese wrote:I like BBC's Sherlock although I totally agree with your "Jerk Genius" assessment.If you're looking for modern adaptations, many people have enjoyed the BBC's Sherlock, though I myself haven't quite liked it as much as I wish I could. They play up the "Jerk Genius" aspect of his personality way too much for my liking, so much that it borders on ill humour;
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I wholeheartedly agree! He really became Sherlock with his performances. Whenever I read the stories now, I picture him as Holmes in my mind's eye. Brilliant performance!Alden Loveshade wrote:
To me, the closest portrayal I've seen to Doyle's original Sherlock Holmes is Jeremy Brett.

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Recently I stumbled upon the Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett and he is absolutely amazing. I think he comes the closest to how I pictured Holmes while reading the stories.rssllue wrote:I wholeheartedly agree! He really became Sherlock with his performances. Whenever I read the stories now, I picture him as Holmes in my mind's eye. Brilliant performance!Alden Loveshade wrote:
To me, the closest portrayal I've seen to Doyle's original Sherlock Holmes is Jeremy Brett.
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