A Connection Between Harry Potter Houses and Factions?

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Re: A Connection Between Harry Potter Houses and Factions?

Post by mraphael1 »

I can understand the similarities between the factions and the houses but I think each series took these ideas in different ideas and didn't make it seem like they were copying on and other
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There's a similar vibe there. HP houses were chosen was decided by the Sorting Hat; the faction was decided by your blood.
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I wouldn't have seen it that way if you didn't mention that. I think it's a popular concept to group things. We group fruit, people, books, etc. I also think it's popular for groups to occur in books. So as you mentioned harry potter and Divergent. But there are other books, like the hunger games and LOTR which use this as well.
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With both books I found myself split between different classifications. I think most people would not fit into one category.
Also, Divergent explores the down side of each characteristic more than Harry Potter.
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I cannot fit one house into one faction respectively, so I choose at least the top 2 factions applicable for each house. These are just my observations in the book and movie versions.

Gryffindor - Dauntless and Amity
Hufflepuff - Amity and Abnegation
Ravenclaw - Erudite and Candor
Slytherin - Dauntless and Erudite

Gryffindor: The main characters in Harry Potter are brave and loyal to their loved ones.
Hufflepuff: Hufflepuff accepts anyone who does not fit into the other houses, thus, I see them as considerate people. (Very underrated house, actually.)
Ravenclaw: They value intelligence the most, and I think they won't leave you alone until they find truth in everything you say.
Slytherin: Most villains in HP are in this faction, and I daresay they are brave enough to reveal their evil and cunning side.
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Post by Gabrielle Sigaki »

I think that the Harry Potter Houses and the Factions are pretty different, but I also think that they have in common the fact that both of them bring some kind of division according to different personalities and personal beliefs too.
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Post by Mason Garrod »

There are definitely similarities but I think there's only a limited amount of core attributes you can give to someone in any story that uses this trope. Particularly with Harry Potter, each house has several characteristics assigned to it and many characters still have traits from other houses too. I think the common trope of being "sorted" by personality is an enduring one in young adult or dystopian fiction because a lot of us, especially as teenagers, can often feel like certain roles or expectations are being imposed on us which may or may not reflect how we really feel
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Post by Reader Chavez »

I always thought that was a very clear similarity. Each of the factions, as well as the houses, are based on specific characteristics that define the people in them. I think the difference is that Hogwarts houses are chosen by the sorting hat, and the factions are chosen by each individual.
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Post by Clare Jose »

I never saw a connection in the first place. Probably never would have seen it, If not for this topic. :wink:
I personally feel that you can't really connect factions and houses perfectly but there are several similarities.
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Post by kirthana_shivakumar »

I think to a great extent Harry Potter houses just matter less. If one chooses a faction, it dictates their whole life after that, including profession and how they live etc. So while they may both be personality based divisions and have similar characteristics, a house in Harry Potter doesn't affect your life quite as much.
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meganxxcooper wrote: 30 Jun 2015, 08:36 It came to my attention that Harry Potter houses may be less forceful, but the idea is still similar to Factions. If you think about it Hufflepuff is similar to Amity, Gryffindor to Dauntless and Abnegation, Slytherin to Erudite and the opposite of Candor, and Ravenclaw to Erudite and Abnegation.

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I didn't actually think of this but now that you mention it, you're quite right. There is a similarity in that people are categorized according to their personalities. However, Harry Potter's milder because it only applies when they're at school, while the division into factions in Divergent stays with you for life.
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In my opinion, both are similar. Afterall, both factions in Divergent as well as the houses in Harry Potter seem to be in place to group people into 'cohorts' of sorts based on their personality.

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Post by Inks and Quills »

This is a great point, the idea is similar at a high level but houses aren’t as formational as factions I think.
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Post by AlphariusRE »

There are definite parallels between the two. Both systems are a way to group people according to their personalities.
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Post by Simmons32 »

I personally don't see it. I don't really see the Harry Potter houses based on personality, but maybe I am just not thinking that much into it. The factions on the other hand are based on personality traits alone. The Harry Potter characters do not have one personality and only that one. They are more realistic in that area where they have different personality traits, as all people do.
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