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Well, I suppose if you don't believe the Bible, then it makes perfect sense for everyone to do what they want. That is the way it works. Actually, if we want to be technical, when the Bible talks about homosexuality, it puts it in the same category as bestiality. I'm sure no one believes that one is okay. And it's also a fact that many of the homosexual's were abused as a child or exposed to it at an early age. We prosecute underage sex (and a lot of times, that is between two CONSENTING people.) How do we determine what is an adult? In the country I live in, it's not at all uncommon for a 14 year old to marry a 20 or 30 year old. And their marriages are good and last. But in the States it would be illegal. We are one of the newest countries and yet, we're the most liberal there is. That says a lot about the decline of the country as a whole. Anyway, I didn't post to get into an argument. In the end, it's up to God what is right and what isn't.
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The Bible is a fine book to read but no I do not believe everything in it ... way too violent & vindictive for me. But I accept it as a book of it's time & place.
I kinda like the Jesus of the Gospels though - forgiving, broadminded, human & he liked women. He also had a fair grasp of what was really sinful & I don't think there is any reference to him obsessing about anyones sex life.
I don't live in the US and have not, as yet, had an opportunity to visit but somehow I greatly doubt that homosexuality will be it's downfall. But no doubt time will tell.
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Paliden wrote:I disagree wholeheartedly. First of all, if it was intended to be that way, then God would have created it where two men or two women could procreate. And before you say it's not about that, read the book of Malachi --
Mal 2:14 Yet you say, "For what reason?" Because the LORD has been witness Between you and the wife of your youth, With whom you have dealt treacherously; Yet she is your companion And your wife by covenant.
Mal 2:15 But did He not make them one, Having a remnant of the Spirit? And why one? He seeks godly offspring. "Therefore take heed to your spirit, And let none deal treacherously with the wife of his youth.

There are plenty more scriptures to show why this is wrong. But here's a different spin- In most Islamic countries, girls get married at a obscenely young age. We consider this child molestation, child prostitution, etc. They don't. Why are we so outraged about things that are culturally acceptable in other countries when we push the LGBT agenda more than anyone? I think this will ultimately undermine the U.S.A. We will see.
You do realise that the bible is a tool of the Vatican, one of the most corrupt, morally bankrupt businesses (and it is a business, it owns land, schools and shares in hospitals, universities and companies all over the world), therefore everything in it is open for debate. It always puzzles me why so many people take issue with 2 gay people marrying and yet turn a blind eye to the many, many marriages where people are deeply unhappy, abused, in emotional pain etc. The heterosexual marriage is such a sacred cow that the pain that goes on behind closed doors is some (not all) marriages is deemed an acceptable consequence. And what about children raised in an unhappy marriage, with alcoholic or drug addicted parents? Is that ok because its a "normal" marriage. Im not suggesting that all hetero marriages are unhappy and all gay ones are happy but as long as someone is committed to someone else what does it matter if they are gay?

I speak as a gay man, and I can tell you for a start I was NEVER abused as a kid so your statistic a few posts ago seems like homophobic rubbish to be honest. I was raised in a very Catholic family and spent many years in my teens and 20s confused as to who I am and its only now later in life that Im starting to get a bit happy in my skin, plus I can confirm that being gay is like your eye color or blood type, its who you are from birth to death theres no hiding it or "curing" it. I fully support gay marriage, thankfully gay men and women are starting to see more equality in their lives but we still have a good way to go.
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I say "live and let live". If they want to marry, why shouldn't they??
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Thats the way I figure too. If they want to marry, so what? No big deal.
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I fully support gay marriage. Homosexuality is found throughout the animal kingdom, which to me is all I need to show that it is natural. I also support love and happiness. I don't see how consenting adults being happy and in love could hurt society. I think hatred and prejudice hurt it more.
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I feel that gay marriage is up to the people involved and if they want to get married and be a couple who am I and who is the government to tell them they can not? If they are happy and in love they should be allowed the same happiness as the rest of us.
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I think that love is love and it is not up to society to determine what is right or wrong.
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I'm not gay but I'm also not one to judge. If a gay couple wants to be married who are we to judge and interfere? They deserve happiness as much as the next person.
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Since the bigotry is being predicated on the Christian bible here:

Galatians 5:14
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."


Sounds pretty simple to me. But if more is required, there's this wee bit:

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

I'm neither Christian nor gay, but I've had plenty of exposure to both cultures. In which of them would you guess I've seen more loving of neighbors and less judging? Now I'm going to shut up, because nothing causes forums to burst into flames faster than discussion of religion.
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Bighuey wrote:Thats the way I figure too. If they want to marry, so what? No big deal.
once again we agree.........I say: " live and let live "....
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Thats true. Its not a lifestyle I agree with, but as long as they are two consenting adults who cares? Its their life. The powers that be should be worrying about more important things then if Mary gets married to Alice or Joe gets married to Dick.
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Absolutely!
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Post by Fran »

What consenting adults do is absolutely none of my business - if fact I really do not want to know.
IMO the unhealthy obsession some people have with other peoples sex lives says a lot more about them that about the individuals they are so obsessed with.
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