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Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 02:50
by Renu G
"I liked the illustration because of its beauty and creative concept in the field of fine arts."

Should it be written as "beautiful" because it is tagged with "creative" ?

1. In my opinion, the meaning of the sentence will change by doing so.
2. "beauty" and "concept" go together as two different reasons why the individual likes the illustration.

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 04:03
by gali
I moved your post to the correct forum.

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 14:20
by Mallory Whitaker
Renu G wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 02:50 "I liked the illustration because of its beauty and creative concept in the field of fine arts."

Should it be written as "beautiful" because it is tagged with "creative" ?

1. In my opinion, the meaning of the sentence will change by doing so.
2. "beauty" and "concept" go together as two different reasons why the individual likes the illustration.
I think it should be written as "beautiful". Being beautiful and being beautifully creative are two different things. The first is about the beauty of the illustration and the second is about the beauty of the creativity of the illustration.

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 17:58
by unamilagra
Yes, these sentences have different meanings. The first is identifying both its beauty and its creative concept as reasons why you liked the illustration. The second sentence is identifying the concept as both beautiful and creative.

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 19:28
by Juliet+1
I'm not clear on what "it" you are going to change to "beautiful." If you mean the word "beauty," then no, you would not change it.

If you fill in all the words (just as a test) you would get "I liked the illustration because of its beauty and because of its creative concept." See?

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 20:55
by Renu G
Mallory Whitaker wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 14:20
Renu G wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 02:50 "I liked the illustration because of its beauty and creative concept in the field of fine arts."

Should it be written as "beautiful" because it is tagged with "creative" ?

1. In my opinion, the meaning of the sentence will change by doing so.
2. "beauty" and "concept" go together as two different reasons why the individual likes the illustration.
I think it should be written as "beautiful". Being beautiful and being beautifully creative are two different things. The first is about the beauty of the illustration and the second is about the beauty of the creativity of the illustration.
Please could you clarify further? Your first sentence seems to contradict the second.

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 25 Aug 2019, 22:37
by Mallory Whitaker
Renu G wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 20:55
Mallory Whitaker wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 14:20
Renu G wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 02:50 "I liked the illustration because of its beauty and creative concept in the field of fine arts."

Should it be written as "beautiful" because it is tagged with "creative" ?

1. In my opinion, the meaning of the sentence will change by doing so.
2. "beauty" and "concept" go together as two different reasons why the individual likes the illustration.
I think it should be written as "beautiful". Being beautiful and being beautifully creative are two different things. The first is about the beauty of the illustration and the second is about the beauty of the creativity of the illustration.
Please could you clarify further? Your first sentence seems to contradict the second.
Ugh. I'm sorry about that! I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I absolutely meant to say beauty in the first sentence.

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 26 Aug 2019, 03:27
by Gravy
Renu G wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 02:50 "I liked the illustration because of its beauty and creative concept in the field of fine arts."

Should it be written as "beautiful" because it is tagged with "creative" ?

1. In my opinion, the meaning of the sentence will change by doing so.
2. "beauty" and "concept" go together as two different reasons why the individual likes the illustration.
Take my thoughts with a grain of salt (I'm far from an expert where grammar is concerned), but this looks like it could be a different issue completely.

If the features are being listed (its "beauty" and its "creative concept"), perhaps it would read better with a comma and another possessive?

"I liked the illustration because of its beauty, and its creative concept in the field of fine arts."

If you change it to beautiful, it would then seem to apply to the concept instead of the work as a whole, which is what this sentence seems to be going for.

Sorry if this isn't very clear. :doh:

Re: Confused about this grammatical issue!

Posted: 26 Aug 2019, 05:33
by Renu G
Gravy wrote: 26 Aug 2019, 03:27
Renu G wrote: 25 Aug 2019, 02:50 "I liked the illustration because of its beauty and creative concept in the field of fine arts."

Should it be written as "beautiful" because it is tagged with "creative" ?

1. In my opinion, the meaning of the sentence will change by doing so.
2. "beauty" and "concept" go together as two different reasons why the individual likes the illustration.
Take my thoughts with a grain of salt (I'm far from an expert where grammar is concerned), but this looks like it could be a different issue completely.

If the features are being listed (its "beauty" and its "creative concept"), perhaps it would read better with a comma and another possessive?

"I liked the illustration because of its beauty, and its creative concept in the field of fine arts."

If you change it to beautiful, it would then seem to apply to the concept instead of the work as a whole, which is what this sentence seems to be going for.

Sorry if this isn't very clear. :doh:
The possessive pronoun is optional, but the comma would be grammatically incorrect because 'and' is not joining two independent clauses.

https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions ... -in-a-list

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/comma-before-and/