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Who or that?

Posted: 31 Aug 2021, 01:42
by Raluca_Mihaila
Hello,
What is your take regarding the use of "who" vs. "that" in a sentence such as this one: "a reader who/that enjoys?"
At first, I used "who" in my reviews, but an editor said it should be "that."
Then, I used "that" and another editor said I was wrong.
It there a clear an indisputable rule?
Thank you!

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 31 Aug 2021, 08:08
by Brackwom
As an Ordinary man, I always prefer both but the majority is of who is high then that so always use who.
& If you think in the way of grammar well, in such case, you can use both the words while referring to a plural
"who" is both an interrogative and Relative Pronoun. wheres, "that" is also both demonstrative and relative pronoun
So, both the words "who" and "that" can be used with the plural word.

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 31 Aug 2021, 12:35
by Raluca_Mihaila
Brackwom wrote: 31 Aug 2021, 08:08 As an Ordinary man, I always prefer both but the majority is of who is high then that so always use who.
& If you think in the way of grammar well, in such case, you can use both the words while referring to a plural
"who" is both an interrogative and Relative Pronoun. wheres, "that" is also both demonstrative and relative pronoun
So, both the words "who" and "that" can be used with the plural word.
Using both made me lose several points in the past, so I would like to settle to one :). Thank you for your opinion!

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 02 Sep 2021, 16:07
by Juliet+1
"Who" is generally used for people, as in "the man who is walking down the street." "That" is used for everything else, as in "the car that I want to buy."

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 04 Sep 2021, 01:47
by Brackwom
Raluca_Mihaila wrote: 31 Aug 2021, 12:35
Brackwom wrote: 31 Aug 2021, 08:08
Using both made me lose several points in the past, so I would like to settle to one :). Thank you for your opinion!
You are right! 8)

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 04 Sep 2021, 12:24
by Raluca_Mihaila
Juliet+1 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 16:07 "Who" is generally used for people, as in "the man who is walking down the street." "That" is used for everything else, as in "the car that I want to buy."
That's what I thought, too. However, I used both who & that for people and, as I said, I lost points on several occasions.

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 07 Sep 2021, 02:07
by Kaitlyn Canedy
Juliet+1 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 16:07 "Who" is generally used for people, as in "the man who is walking down the street." "That" is used for everything else, as in "the car that I want to buy."
I agree with this statement as well. Personally, if I am going to use who or that, I would use them in the following ways-

"Readers who enjoy helping others will like this book."

"The mall that I shop at is closed today."

Maybe this article I have attached to this post will help clarify when to use these pronouns.
https://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-t ... h-and-who/

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 07 Sep 2021, 05:39
by Ruchi Raina
Juliet+1 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 16:07 "Who" is generally used for people, as in "the man who is walking down the street." "That" is used for everything else, as in "the car that I want to buy."
Yeah, I follow this rule too. It's "who" for people and "that" for non-living things mostly. Maybe you can request a recheck if you're sure?

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 07 Sep 2021, 22:03
by Recee Ann
wow! I never thought about this.. thanks anyways

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 10 Sep 2021, 17:12
by Raluca_Mihaila
Ruchi Raina wrote: 07 Sep 2021, 05:39
Juliet+1 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 16:07 "Who" is generally used for people, as in "the man who is walking down the street." "That" is used for everything else, as in "the car that I want to buy."
Yeah, I follow this rule too. It's "who" for people and "that" for non-living things mostly. Maybe you can request a recheck if you're sure?
I just revisited some old reviews and discovered this issue. It doesn't matter now, but I just wanted to know if I really missed something.

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 10 Sep 2021, 17:14
by Raluca_Mihaila
Katie Canedy wrote: 07 Sep 2021, 02:07
Juliet+1 wrote: 02 Sep 2021, 16:07 "Who" is generally used for people, as in "the man who is walking down the street." "That" is used for everything else, as in "the car that I want to buy."
I agree with this statement as well. Personally, if I am going to use who or that, I would use them in the following ways-

"Readers who enjoy helping others will like this book."

"The mall that I shop at is closed today."

Maybe this article I have attached to this post will help clarify when to use these pronouns.
https://www.dailywritingtips.com/when-t ... h-and-who/
Thank you for your answer. So there are no other secret rules :).

Re: Who or that?

Posted: 21 Sep 2021, 20:56
by Stephanie Mounce
My thought is if you form the sentence as a question- which one makes more sense:

Who would I recommend this book to?
Would I recommend this book for that?

At least I use the questions above for my recommendatios in my reviews and have never been told I was wrong.