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biatch
Posted: 26 Sep 2024, 11:27
by Kshitija Sonawane
So, the author of this book I am reviewing keeps using the word biatch, not as an expression but to tell that she was called that. Does that count as profanity?
Re: biatch
Posted: 26 Sep 2024, 12:57
by Diana Lowery
Kshitija Sonawane wrote: ↑26 Sep 2024, 11:27
So, the author of this book I am reviewing keeps using the word biatch, not as an expression but to tell that she was called that. Does that count as profanity?
I think I would be cautious with this word because author's can be picky sometimes, and your review could be rejected. Are there other legitimate profane words that you could cite in the PRQ and leave this one alone?
Re: biatch
Posted: 27 Sep 2024, 11:15
by Kshitija Sonawane
Yes, I read further and did find some. However, I am still concerned on what to do if we get such words. Another such concern was bs, which is short of bullshit, which is obviously a profanity
Re: biatch
Posted: 27 Sep 2024, 12:29
by Diana Lowery
Kshitija Sonawane wrote: ↑27 Sep 2024, 11:15
Yes, I read further and did find some. However, I am still concerned on what to do if we get such words. Another such concern was bs, which is short of bullshit, which is obviously a profanity
Have you read this?
viewtopic.php?f=132&t=226478
I try to stick as close as possible to what is listed here to avoid as many disputes as possible.
Re: biatch
Posted: 29 Sep 2024, 15:45
by Adrian Bouknight
Kshitija Sonawane wrote: ↑26 Sep 2024, 11:27
So, the author of this book I am reviewing keeps using the word biatch, not as an expression but to tell that she was called that. Does that count as profanity?
I would consider that non-borderline profanity. This is from the profanity guidelines:
"In addition to the words above, many typically non-profane terms can be profane when used as vulgar slang for something sexual. For example a word like "nut" or "jerk" is not profanity when used literally, but many otherwise innocent terms could be profanity when used as vulgar, immature, and/or pejorative sexual slang."
Ultimately, the term "biatch", even if it technically isn't the original word "B*tch", it still is used in a vulger, profane, immature, or derogatory way.
It is still, by nature, profane, even if it isn't one of the words specifically identified in the profanity list.
That is how I would approach that one. I don't think any editor could read a sentence about one person calling another person that word, and somehow deny that it is profanity. And I would push back against any editor that tried.
Re: biatch
Posted: 30 Sep 2024, 06:33
by Diana Lowery
Adrian Bouknight wrote: ↑29 Sep 2024, 15:45
Kshitija Sonawane wrote: ↑26 Sep 2024, 11:27
So, the author of this book I am reviewing keeps using the word biatch, not as an expression but to tell that she was called that. Does that count as profanity?
I would consider that non-borderline profanity. This is from the profanity guidelines:
"In addition to the words above, many typically non-profane terms can be profane when used as vulgar slang for something sexual. For example a word like "nut" or "jerk" is not profanity when used literally, but many otherwise innocent terms could be profanity when used as vulgar, immature, and/or pejorative sexual slang."
Ultimately, the term "biatch", even if it technically isn't the original word "B*tch", it still is used in a vulger, profane, immature, or derogatory way.
It is still, by nature, profane, even if it isn't one of the words specifically identified in the profanity list.
That is how I would approach that one. I don't think any editor could read a sentence about one person calling another person that word, and somehow deny that it is profanity. And I would push back against any editor that tried.
Adrian,
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that most of my profanity disputes have come from the authors and not from the editors.
Re: biatch
Posted: 30 Sep 2024, 17:47
by Adrian Bouknight
Diana Lowery wrote: ↑30 Sep 2024, 06:33
Adrian Bouknight wrote: ↑29 Sep 2024, 15:45
Kshitija Sonawane wrote: ↑26 Sep 2024, 11:27
So, the author of this book I am reviewing keeps using the word biatch, not as an expression but to tell that she was called that. Does that count as profanity?
I would consider that non-borderline profanity. This is from the profanity guidelines:
"In addition to the words above, many typically non-profane terms can be profane when used as vulgar slang for something sexual. For example a word like "nut" or "jerk" is not profanity when used literally, but many otherwise innocent terms could be profanity when used as vulgar, immature, and/or pejorative sexual slang."
Ultimately, the term "biatch", even if it technically isn't the original word "B*tch", it still is used in a vulger, profane, immature, or derogatory way.
It is still, by nature, profane, even if it isn't one of the words specifically identified in the profanity list.
That is how I would approach that one. I don't think any editor could read a sentence about one person calling another person that word, and somehow deny that it is profanity. And I would push back against any editor that tried.
Adrian,
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that most of my profanity disputes have come from the authors and not from the editors.
Interesting! Alright! I would hope not! But that makes sense to me, the guidelines appear to be open ended specifically for this reason. But that makes sense to me!