I keep going back and forth on that... I ultimately do agree, I don't think Carly meant to hit him and that she was in shock... but also, she did exhibit enough restraint to not burn him... that would have made that scene much more interesting if she had accidentally burnt him! It would have created this whole interesting storyline and maybe give that whole situation some reasoning... Leads to Carly telling Kane about her powers.Howlan wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:39I think Carly did it more as a way of reflex than self-defence.Nym182 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 10:32I think you really worded this very well! I don't condone violence in this instance... the lines were blurred enough that I can understand why Kane felt like it was ok to kiss her, (but you are right, he could/should have told her about his wanting to kiss her) but I don't think Kane was being aggressive to the point that Carly felt the need to defend herself.Jac-o-lantern wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 10:06 I do think Kane was in the wrong for just kissing her out of the blue, he should have talked to her about his feelings especially knowing she was in a relationship. However, I do think Carly shares some of the blame for leading him on. While her outfit did not matter in my opinion, her reluctance to make clear boundaries and show her discomfort with his actions lead him to believe he had a chance and her reaction of slapping him was too extreme she could have used her words. I understand both were afraid of ruining their friendship, but more communication should have been used.
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Especially when she decides to put on those socks... she's obviously conscious of his sexual turn-ons and made an effort to curb them... (~shudders~ I'll never get over that part)Howlan wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:43Yes but she definitely wanted for a good casual hangout. As she was in the first-person narration, I see no intent from her.Nym182 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 16:19I agree... it's confusing enough at that age but she definitely was blurring those lines... The only defense I can think of on Carly's behalf is that she is unpracticed at social situations... but still, making dinner for two and cuddling on the couch would seem romantic to me too...
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Ahhh, you're right, that's would have been very interesting if Carly had accidentally burned him and she had to tell him about her powers! That would have spiced things up for sure!Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 16:26I keep going back and forth on that... I ultimately do agree, I don't think Carly meant to hit him and that she was in shock... but also, she did exhibit enough restraint to not burn him... that would have made that scene much more interesting if she had accidentally burnt him! It would have created this whole interesting storyline and maybe give that whole situation some reasoning... Leads to Carly telling Kane about her powers.Howlan wrote: ↑22 Feb 2020, 09:39I think Carly did it more as a way of reflex than self-defence.Nym182 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2020, 10:32
I think you really worded this very well! I don't condone violence in this instance... the lines were blurred enough that I can understand why Kane felt like it was ok to kiss her, (but you are right, he could/should have told her about his wanting to kiss her) but I don't think Kane was being aggressive to the point that Carly felt the need to defend herself.
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The slap was warranted, as he knew she had a boyfriend.LV2R wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 00:35 I can see how Kane would be thrown off a bit from being invited over and being a close friend to Carly. I do not think Carly should have slapped him, but that was her first reaction to what she thought Kane had crossed over a boundary set in her mind. Maybe this would be a lesson to Carly on how to remain friends, but more careful how time would be spent together from then on.
But Carly, girl. You are in a relationship, don't be snuggling up to a guy friend in the couch. That's truly just not appropriate. I'm a married woman with close guy friends, and we're not snuggling on couches.
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The snuggling on the couch thing was just too much. I have dude friends. I'm a married woman. We hang out one on one, we make dinner together, but I'm not cuddling on the couch with them, or falling asleep on them, while watching a movie. Boundaries!B Creech wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 11:17I agree! I think Carly kind off provoked it by wearing an off-the-shoulder top and by snuggling up with him on the couch. She knew Kane liked her as more than a friend! Thanks for commenting!LV2R wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 00:35 I can see how Kane would be thrown off a bit from being invited over and being a close friend to Carly. I do not think Carly should have slapped him, but that was her first reaction to what she thought Kane had crossed over a boundary set in her mind. Maybe this would be a lesson to Carly on how to remain friends, but more careful how time would be spent together from then on.
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The cuddling up and snuggling up was just inappropriate. That's not how you behave with a guy you know likes you, and you're already in a relationship. It's called boundaries, and being respectful of your partner (although her partner kidnapped and basically killed a girl in the woods in his sex den, so Kane was a definite upgrade).mariana90 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 15:02 I don't think an off-the-shoulder sweater to be a turn-on for a dude, though there is definitely something out there for everyone.
I think it was more the author trying to add sexual tension through a love triangle than any actual misbehavior on Carly's part.
Though I agree that the snuggling can definitely be misread by a guy, especially if they already have feelings for the girl.
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I absolutely agree! Send out the wrong signals and you will get the wrong outcome!gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:43The snuggling on the couch thing was just too much. I have dude friends. I'm a married woman. We hang out one on one, we make dinner together, but I'm not cuddling on the couch with them, or falling asleep on them, while watching a movie. Boundaries!B Creech wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 11:17I agree! I think Carly kind off provoked it by wearing an off-the-shoulder top and by snuggling up with him on the couch. She knew Kane liked her as more than a friend! Thanks for commenting!LV2R wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 00:35 I can see how Kane would be thrown off a bit from being invited over and being a close friend to Carly. I do not think Carly should have slapped him, but that was her first reaction to what she thought Kane had crossed over a boundary set in her mind. Maybe this would be a lesson to Carly on how to remain friends, but more careful how time would be spent together from then on.
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Exactly! Be clear, communicate and don't directly give mixed signals to a guy who you know likes you by snuggling up like you're physically attracted to him.B Creech wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:48I absolutely agree! Send out the wrong signals and you will get the wrong outcome!gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:43The snuggling on the couch thing was just too much. I have dude friends. I'm a married woman. We hang out one on one, we make dinner together, but I'm not cuddling on the couch with them, or falling asleep on them, while watching a movie. Boundaries!
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Thanks!B Creech wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:31Ahhh, you're right, that's would have been very interesting if Carly had accidentally burned him and she had to tell him about her powers! That would have spiced things up for sure!Nym182 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 16:26I keep going back and forth on that... I ultimately do agree, I don't think Carly meant to hit him and that she was in shock... but also, she did exhibit enough restraint to not burn him... that would have made that scene much more interesting if she had accidentally burnt him! It would have created this whole interesting storyline and maybe give that whole situation some reasoning... Leads to Carly telling Kane about her powers.
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Right? I also don't make my close guy friends a dinner for two...gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:40The slap was warranted, as he knew she had a boyfriend.LV2R wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 00:35 I can see how Kane would be thrown off a bit from being invited over and being a close friend to Carly. I do not think Carly should have slapped him, but that was her first reaction to what she thought Kane had crossed over a boundary set in her mind. Maybe this would be a lesson to Carly on how to remain friends, but more careful how time would be spent together from then on.
But Carly, girl. You are in a relationship, don't be snuggling up to a guy friend in the couch. That's truly just not appropriate. I'm a married woman with close guy friends, and we're not snuggling on couches.
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I agree!gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:50Exactly! Be clear, communicate and don't directly give mixed signals to a guy who you know likes you by snuggling up like you're physically attracted to him.B Creech wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:48I absolutely agree! Send out the wrong signals and you will get the wrong outcome!gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:43
The snuggling on the couch thing was just too much. I have dude friends. I'm a married woman. We hang out one on one, we make dinner together, but I'm not cuddling on the couch with them, or falling asleep on them, while watching a movie. Boundaries!
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You make a good point... Kane would definitely be an upgrade!gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:46The cuddling up and snuggling up was just inappropriate. That's not how you behave with a guy you know likes you, and you're already in a relationship. It's called boundaries, and being respectful of your partner (although her partner kidnapped and basically killed a girl in the woods in his sex den, so Kane was a definite upgrade).mariana90 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 15:02 I don't think an off-the-shoulder sweater to be a turn-on for a dude, though there is definitely something out there for everyone.
I think it was more the author trying to add sexual tension through a love triangle than any actual misbehavior on Carly's part.
Though I agree that the snuggling can definitely be misread by a guy, especially if they already have feelings for the girl.
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I mean, I actually do that, with guy friends I had before my husband came along. But like, we don't touch. We hug hello and goodbye, eat like a pasta dinner or something ( I ain't making a fancy dinner, nah), and watch a movie on OPPOSITE ends of the couch. No snuggling. No weird flirty tension. No nothing.Nym182 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2020, 11:13Right? I also don't make my close guy friends a dinner for two...gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:40The slap was warranted, as he knew she had a boyfriend.LV2R wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 00:35 I can see how Kane would be thrown off a bit from being invited over and being a close friend to Carly. I do not think Carly should have slapped him, but that was her first reaction to what she thought Kane had crossed over a boundary set in her mind. Maybe this would be a lesson to Carly on how to remain friends, but more careful how time would be spent together from then on.
But Carly, girl. You are in a relationship, don't be snuggling up to a guy friend in the couch. That's truly just not appropriate. I'm a married woman with close guy friends, and we're not snuggling on couches.
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Hells yeah. Always nice (apart from the led-on kissing incident), was respectful, kind, NOT a kidnapping and murdering psychopath... guys like that can be hard to find!Nym182 wrote: ↑25 Feb 2020, 11:46You make a good point... Kane would definitely be an upgrade!gilliansisley wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 19:46The cuddling up and snuggling up was just inappropriate. That's not how you behave with a guy you know likes you, and you're already in a relationship. It's called boundaries, and being respectful of your partner (although her partner kidnapped and basically killed a girl in the woods in his sex den, so Kane was a definite upgrade).mariana90 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2020, 15:02 I don't think an off-the-shoulder sweater to be a turn-on for a dude, though there is definitely something out there for everyone.
I think it was more the author trying to add sexual tension through a love triangle than any actual misbehavior on Carly's part.
Though I agree that the snuggling can definitely be misread by a guy, especially if they already have feelings for the girl.
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