I Beg to Differ.
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I think God also sees us with all our imperfections, which is important for us to improve
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When we believe in Christ, even though we continue to sin (because we are not perfect), we are reconciled with God (we no longer have to fear his punishment), because we are clothed in Jesus. Thus, when God sees our sin, He sees Jesus. I believe Rick Warren (who the author quotes in that passage) is speaking on the matter of sin and reconciliation, not God's intention toward us as His children.
So, in regard to our sin, God sees Jesus and does not require punishment or payment (because Jesus paid for it). On the other side, God is our creator, our Father, and therefore, cares about us deeply as individuals. He cares about our sanctification. But we are even able to be sanctified and grown in a unique, beautiful, and individually-crafted way because Jesus paid for our reconciliation first. We needed to be reconciled first so that we could even be able to HAVE a relationship with God, which will thus allow our sanctification process (through the Holy Spirit). I don't believe it's an "either/or" answer. It's both.
Thanks for the great question!
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I want to believe that I get the author's sentiments but I quite agree with you. As Christians, we often make this mistake of misrepresenting God, albeit with a sincere heart to show his unconditional love.Nerea wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 01:18 I like how the author defines Grace (undeserved kindness) and reveals how it affects us. But I beg to differ a little bit with the author’s sentiments in location 343, paragraph 2 where the author talks about how God views us as individuals. He says;
“To be in Christ means that when God looks at you, He doesn’t see all your sins, failures, and rough spots. When you are in Christ, God just sees Jesus. You may see the scars, the mess, and the problems, but God sees perfection in Jesus.”
I don’t know if I’m the one who got it wrong. Feel free to correct me. My issue comes in where the author says, God does not see our effects of imperfection, but He sees perfection in Jesus. I believe God is aware of all our sinful inclinations, and He wants us to change and become useful vessels in His service. To achieve that, He has used His word and His Holy Spirit to help us correct our weaknesses so that we can attain perfection/holiness. He provides comfort whenever we feel low, through the Bible, and give us the strength that will help us endure all our “rough spots.” For God to draw us closer to Christ, He chooses to look at the good in us despite our bad tendencies, failures, and trials. (Ref; Genesis 6:5, Psalms 51:5, Isaiah 48:17,18, 1 peter 1:14-16, 2 Corinthians 1:3,4, John 6:44, Psalms 103:12-14).
Does God only “see perfection in Jesus,” or is He also interested in us as individuals?
I do not agree that God only sees Jesus when he looks at us. God is NOT blind. He sees everything, including us as individuals. We each have a personality, a spirit, character, dreams, goals, likes, dislikes, wants, needs, successes, failures, sin, and everything else, and God is interested in ALL of it. He saw our frailty and sent His son to kickstart the work of redemption.
So does God only see Jesus or is He interested in us as individuals? Yes, he is ABSOLUTELY interested in us and everything that concerns us. That was the whole point of sending Jesus. These are my two cents.
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This is my thoughts exactly! We are all people who aren't worthy of his grace but because of Jesus' sacrifice for us, we get grace indeed.