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Howlan wrote:
> djr6090 wrote:
> > B00kN1nja wrote:
> > > I really wish this book had included some source citations, even just
> > > simple footnotes for some of the information.
> >
> > Could the author have assumed that noone would question his opinion, since he is
> an
> > MD?
>
> Not necessarily. I think there is a limit to what you can put in the book. I think if
> the author would have given all the things in total detail it would be a huge sized
> book. And personally I would not have then read a 1000 page book about remedies for
> stress. A short book with the necessary things is effective. Citations would have
> been therefore a welcome addition for those who want to know more about the topic.

I fully concur with this one. I think citations are a matter of relevance and intention. And since this book is not a science project, I believe the way it was presented is sufficient to meet the author's goal. So many of the remedies given are straight forward.
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To me it was sad. I like to check the references, not because I doubt the author, although many times I do, but because it's a great opportunity to learn more. Usually author's take what they think to be the best in others books, but many times a found treasures of wisdom when I read the source. But even though the book is great.
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I agree with you. It would lend credibility to their research. More importantly, it would have offered people that really wanted to explore some of the topics, treatments, etc more sources to go to. My frustration was that it would mention a method very generally, have no citations, and offer no other books or sources to support. I don’t mind doing my own research, but for some it may seem like too much effort.
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I agree, citations do give a certain degree of confidence to the literature and room for further research, especially for anyone not completely sold on the ideas. However, the book is still effective and authentic.
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Sgpope01 wrote:
> I agree with you. It would lend credibility to their research. More
> importantly, it would have offered people that really wanted to explore
> some of the topics, treatments, etc more sources to go to. My frustration
> was that it would mention a method very generally, have no citations, and
> offer no other books or sources to support. I don’t mind doing my own
> research, but for some it may seem like too much effort.

I agree with this. It can get quite taxing if you are curious about a lot of things in the book, which I was. Moreover, sometimes I wish I could read an alternate phrasing of a certain method – although the authors are quite clear, it would have been nice to know any other tips the wider community has found to make the method more effective.
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Post by AntonelaMaria »

I don't mind the lack of citations in this book. Mainly because I already was aware of the majority things and topics the author talked about. But I understand your question and it is valid.
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That's right. Citation has a way of upholding a book. It shows adequate research was involved. It also gives room for referring back, and reading up a lot.
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I think that it could benefit from a few footnotes. Like you mentioned, the "one study found" type comments irked me slightly as I was interested in what study it was, and what exactly they had said. I was honestly pretty happy with the book, as I felt it wasn't overwhelming with its information and the lack of sources was nice for the overall flow of the book, but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't benefit from having some.
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Post by Sonya Nicolaidis »

I absolutely agree with you. It’s a pre-requisite to be able to back up certain sources with appropriate references, and it certainly does lend credibility. I suppose it takes so much more extra work and time, and for that reason, they may have been omitted in this case. Curious readers can always dig a little deeper for themselves using the internet, but it’s not as good as proper references in the text.
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The truth is that one can connect with the book even without these citations. But the credibility would have been brought to a better height if citations were not overlooked. It gives the reader this feeling that these therapies are quite authentic.
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Nwaogazie Goodness wrote:
> That's right. Citation has a way of upholding a book. It shows adequate
> research was involved. It also gives room for referring back, and reading
> up a lot.

It certainly is a big help for curious minds and people who are suffering from stress and want to know much a more about the topic Absence of these definitely reduces the effectiveness of this book.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > djr6090 wrote:
> > > B00kN1nja wrote:
> > > > I really wish this book had included some source citations, even just
> > > > simple footnotes for some of the information.
> > >
> > > Could the author have assumed that noone would question his opinion, since
> he is
> > an
> > > MD?
> >
> > Not necessarily. I think there is a limit to what you can put in the book. I
> think if
> > the author would have given all the things in total detail it would be a huge
> sized
> > book. And personally I would not have then read a 1000 page book about remedies
> for
> > stress. A short book with the necessary things is effective. Citations would
> have
> > been therefore a welcome addition for those who want to know more about the
> topic.
>
> I fully concur with this one. I think citations are a matter of relevance and
> intention. And since this book is not a science project, I believe the way it was
> presented is sufficient to meet the author's goal. So many of the remedies given are
> straight forward.

Yes, a huge and heavy book about natural remedies is really the last to read on muy kind. Considering the practical nature of this book, it is much easier to read and acts as a suitable handbook. So the addition of citations in footnotes would have made the book more efficient.
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Post by Howlan »

Sgpope01 wrote:
> I agree with you. It would lend credibility to their research. More
> importantly, it would have offered people that really wanted to explore
> some of the topics, treatments, etc more sources to go to. My frustration
> was that it would mention a method very generally, have no citations, and
> offer no other books or sources to support. I don’t mind doing my own
> research, but for some it may seem like too much effort.

Yes, not everyone wants to research about all topics here but for those who want to understand a few concepts better, a citation would have made their research the more easier and spare him the mess of filtering thousand webpages. It would help the reader a lot and is a definite mention.
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Guda LM wrote:
> I agree, citations do give a certain degree of confidence to the literature
> and room for further research, especially for anyone not completely sold on
> the ideas. However, the book is still effective and authentic.

Yes, however, the presence of citations would have made this book much more effective and the definite go-to handbook for problems related to stress as many books are there that deal with stress and anxiety but the addition of citations would have made this book a notch higher to the other books out there.
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Post by Arite Seki »

I do agree with you in that citations would improve the book's credibility especially when making claims or stating a fact. I think even if there was a reluctance to overload the book with different sources and references, it could have still been helpful to include an article or specific research study to link back to.
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