Is the plot really original?

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The plotting of the this book was well developed and very unique and I agree that it's made the book more interesting.
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The "caromentis" concept seems to have been borrowed from other older fantasy books. In my opinion, I think Matthew borrowed the storyline from other books, but wrote this publication in a distinctive manner. The book is a masterpiece.
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luchi123 wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 11:11 I think I would rather use the word unique for the plot. I think that the Galen story added something different to it. I haven't read the other books in the series, but I expect Galen to be a more prominent protagonist despite all the magical powers which the others possessed.
Having read a few other subsequent volumes, I'd say Galen is an outstanding protagonist. I don't want to be the spoiler, so i'll leave it at that. I'd definitely recommend it's subsequent copies.
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Guete Zuelo wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 18:40 Tysz indeed wrote a good book. The good world-building should be pointed out. But I'm going to agree with you that it resembles other books. Though it's okay to have many different books about medieval culture, magic, and the dichotomy between good and evil, I think there's nothing exclusive this book can offer :cry:
In my understanding, I think nothing's original in the world, including writing. In terms of originality and creativity, authors read different books before coming up with their own storylines. And so has Matthew Tysz. He borrowed ideas from different books then implemented them in a unique way, using different point of views.
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Several magical plotlines have been utilized time and time again. Originality and creativity is usually based on some sort of predecessor even if we may not think it is. There are elements that are used pretty frequently (kingdom with the existence of magic, but they are opposed to the use of magic at first, etc.) Magic is a general concept. It's what the author incorporates into its idea rather than just good magic and dark magic. That's just my two cents. :D
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I think in this genre, it's hard to be original. A lot of these plots based around the Middle Ages seem to have similarities, and they tend to all blend together.
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The plot isn't original. It resembles almost every other fantastical- magical story. Evil versus good.
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The background of the story is unique and so is Voulhire. But it has underlying concepts and tropes that can be seen in many books
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The book is reminiscent of some Middle Ages books but I think it has an original twist, in parts it’s hard to put a date in time on the story and the addition of magic and fantasy makes it very intriguing. Parts of the book did remind me of, Game of Thrones and The Lord of the Rings, but this is natural in this genre. The range of characters and world building made the book seem very original and unique to me.
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I think that the setting draws many elements from traditional fantasy, the originality comes from what he does with those elements. In my opinion, he didn't do a lot with them (I know there are other books in this saga, I'm only talking about this one).
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Original? Not really. There's nothing new under the sun when it comes to literature, because at the end, whatever we create has a foundation in what we've previously encountered. I don't know any author that has absolutely no references for what they write, specially in fantasy. However, I think the execution of the plot is brilliant, and that is what makes the book so good.
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I agree that there is a common element between the plot in this book and other books on the same theme. However, I love the development of this book because the scenes are not predictable. The characters are well developed too and the narrative has depth. I even learnt about forging from the book.
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I think the story is unique, but with the aspects of war, magic and science often in similar genres ,could make one think they are the same!
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Honestly, I don't think "original ideas" exist anymore - so many stories have been told so unique ideas are exceptionally rare. I do, however, believe that the combination of different ideas and events, within the context of the story and the elements of said story, is what makes a book unique and original. Same with music - there are 7 basic notes (12 if you consider the sharps and flats). Each song in existence uses those notes - but the order, emphasis, length and tone varies - producing original music. So yes, some elements remind me of other books I have read before, but still the We Are Voulhire series felt like a gulp of fresh air.
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I think that the book has a lot of elements, such as the ones you mentioned, in common with other books; however, I also think that this book put a unique spin on a lot of those elements, such as how it blended them all together. I enjoyed the story, and I thought it had enough twists and turns to keep it entertaining, even if it was not entirely original.
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