Does this book prove real-life is stranger than fiction?
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Re: Does this book prove real-life is stranger than fiction?
Yes, I totally believe that Gary-the_author added some reflections in that Gary the character would not be capable of as it happened.
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I think you have a very good point. Once he learned about Duke's story from Duke, he could sort of glean from it what he thought sounded reasonable and worth sharing with a less personal, biased view of it. He could eliminate anything he thought sounded too embellished or over-the-top in any way. He didn't have the luxury of doing the same with his own life.bobbiebryner wrote: ↑15 May 2018, 07:56 I think that the author's perspective of the events were biased because the author supposedly lived these events. He was able to include his thoughts, his interpretations, and his desired embellishments to the events. I think this made the story seem stranger-than-fiction.
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He was very honest in saying that the book was a loose interpretation of the life events of Duke. He never claimed they were verbatim. As with Hollywood and cinema, he used "artistic license." Like every single novel written around the subject of a famous person(s) life and times. We can't honestly say that Queen Elizabeth the first was a virgin, but we can elaborate on every single rumor, story, notation, or "historical fact" and make her life seem as risqué as an HBO show.
Do i think everything told in the book is going to be 100% true? No, if it was then people wouldn't read it. You have to elaborate, embellish, color the world you are creating and presenting. So far I think the author has found a good middle ground. Believable if you run with the likes of Ozzy Osbourne from the 80's, but just wild enough to blow the socks off Laura Ingalls Wilder.
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The book started out with an intro saying he made most of it up. Real life can be stranger than fiction, but I think this is a case of an interesting man prompting an interesting story. I doubt the real Duke featured heavily into the novel.Sptlightstar wrote: ↑10 May 2018, 08:17 I found myself second-guessing that this was based on real events many times because this book had me thinking, "How could someone do this to themselves?" so often. I had to keep going back to the book's description to confirm that I hadn't misread and that The Sword Swallower and a Chico Kid was based on true events.
What were some of the wildest moments in this book? Did you ever question the author's credibility?
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This is very true and a fair point. Our own experiences with "weird" can definitely shift our perspective as to what other things we believe to be fact or fiction. I can't say as I have met anyone even close to as colorful as Duke or anyone in his circus family. I also don't know any addicts so it's hard for me to determine how bizarre their behavior might be. The story about the museum seemed incredibly far-fetched to me. I just could not imagine people being that irresponsible, disgusting, and stupid. So my world view is actually pretty small compared to a lot of people. In business we always say "it's who you know." This statement seems to apply here just as much as it does in business. When you know people who have done weird, bizarre, or dangerous things, it is easier to believe when others claim to have attempted some odd feats.amypattenaude wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 00:25 I am only a quarter of the way done with this book. My first reaction to the original statement of this topic is, if you have a hard time believing most of the story is true, then I fear you have not been surrounded by a colorful lot of people.
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The book also appears under the "Biographies and Memoirs" category on its Amazon Kindle page. In the special message he shared, he states, "The book is fiction, but much of this story is based on actual experiences," yet I've found many conversations where he claims the events are true. The branding of this book is confusing and misleading to people buying it. If I bought a book labeled "Biography and Memoir" and the preface states it's based on true events but the book is a work of fiction, I'd second-guess the publishing quality of the work.
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What a great commentary! As I have been reading the comments regarding this topic, I was confused an shocked by some of the responses given. I am sure most people have known or come into contact with someone who has lived a wild life. As you mentioned it could be family member, close friend or even themselves that have maybe come close or went well past the things that Duke or Gary experienced. I can't understand why it is hard to believe some of the incidents mentioned in the book is beyond the comprehension of many posting. Although people may not have experienced the wild or dark side of life, does not mean that it does not occur.amypattenaude wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 00:25 I am only a quarter of the way done with this book. My first reaction to the original statement of this topic is, if you have a hard time believing most of the story is true, then I fear you have not been surrounded by a colorful lot of people. Just from the first quarter of the book I can think of characters that have come and gone from my life that would be just as out there and crazy, and some of those are family friends that I have known my whole life, some are family, some are retired military, some are just random people I picked up along the way. And a few of my very own experiences and stories and happenstances could hold up to some of what the author wrote.
He was very honest in saying that the book was a loose interpretation of the life events of Duke. He never claimed they were verbatim. As with Hollywood and cinema, he used "artistic license." Like every single novel written around the subject of a famous person(s) life and times. We can't honestly say that Queen Elizabeth the first was a virgin, but we can elaborate on every single rumor, story, notation, or "historical fact" and make her life seem as risqué as an HBO show.
Do i think everything told in the book is going to be 100% true? No, if it was then people wouldn't read it. You have to elaborate, embellish, color the world you are creating and presenting. So far I think the author has found a good middle ground. Believable if you run with the likes of Ozzy Osbourne from the 80's, but just wild enough to blow the socks off Laura Ingalls Wilder.
Another thing, what we have to consider about the authenticity of some of the events in the book could be because of the lack of clear memory of the events. Both characters were addicted to drugs and alcohol, which can distort memory and completely not remember something happened. This occurs when a person has had a blackout. Just because a person is unable to recall an incident that happened the night before but able to describe the conversation of a person he just met without problems, does not mean that the event is not real. Thank you for keeping it real.
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I wouldn't say "very loosely" for all events. I myself have a couple of stories from my childhood in the 80's that would be on par with most of what I have read so far. It was the 60's, and just based on some of the documentaries, interviews and other reading I have done nothing in here yet seems to extreme. Except maybe getting your whole body covered in tats in a month. That's pretty difficult and painful.Sheenah684 wrote: ↑27 May 2018, 17:00 I typically think that "based on true events" means very loosely based on true events. There may be a connection to the truth, but I wouldn't count on it.
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I agree with your comments regarding the era that the book was set in. I was bor in 1961 and although I was a little to young to really understand the whole 60's concept of "free love," hippies, and a time where a lot of drugs were used; I know that it was a time that would have totally blew some of the readers mind. Acid trips, burning bras and wild orgies were rampant back then. Bikers such as the Hell's Angels were notorius for tatoos.amypattenaude wrote: ↑28 May 2018, 00:25I wouldn't say "very loosely" for all events. I myself have a couple of stories from my childhood in the 80's that would be on par with most of what I have read so far. It was the 60's, and just based on some of the documentaries, interviews and other reading I have done nothing in here yet seems to extreme. Except maybe getting your whole body covered in tats in a month. That's pretty difficult and painful.Sheenah684 wrote: ↑27 May 2018, 17:00 I typically think that "based on true events" means very loosely based on true events. There may be a connection to the truth, but I wouldn't count on it.