I agree - and perhaps also that what's really heroic is doing actually helpful things.
Does it matter that little Tony is black?
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Re: Does it matter that little Tony is black?
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I feel the same way. When I saw this topic thread I tried to imagine the book with a different race or gender. It made absolutely no difference.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 10:30 The fact that Toni is black didn't even register on my radar until this thread. So I obviously felt none of the above.
And I don't think it will for kids either. They just see another kid, it's us adults that notice the colour
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Your comments are always so insightful. I hope kids will get that message out of this book.Libs_Books wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 00:49I agree - and perhaps also that what's really heroic is doing actually helpful things.
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I agree. There was nothing about his home, his family, his activities that had anything to distinguish him from children of other races. To me it's "kids are just kids."bb587 wrote: ↑02 Jul 2018, 07:45I feel the same way. When I saw this topic thread I tried to imagine the book with a different race or gender. It made absolutely no difference.Bianka Walter wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 10:30 The fact that Toni is black didn't even register on my radar until this thread. So I obviously felt none of the above.
And I don't think it will for kids either. They just see another kid, it's us adults that notice the colour
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It's sad that we look at children's books this way. If it was a light-skinned child depicted, we would not have questioned the intention and would have assumed it was to encourage children. Although, we would have been upset that a light-skinned child was depicted when there is not enough diversity in children's books. When a dark-skinned child is depicted, we flip the intention so that it seems to be discouraging.
I feel that it is up to us as parents and caregivers to make sure that it is interpreted in a positive light when we are reading it with our children. In the fertile soil of a child's mind, if we plant tolerance and acceptance, we will reap tolerance and acceptance. If we plant hatred and racism, we will reap hatred and racism.
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I agree with you 100%.bookowlie wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 08:16 Christinaro - Interesting question! I didn't view it as black kids can only do ordinary things while the superpowers belong to the white kids. For me, the story showed that important people (superheroes) still do ordinary activities and chores like everyone else.
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I agree with you in this respect and I think the author did a great job whether she did it on purpose or she simply did what she felt was right.
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We actually have the same idea in this case. What I mean is that I am glad R.D. Base chose to write a book about a little black superhero. The words you wrote in your review are wonderful and they somehow reminded me of Frantz Fanon's book "Black Skins, White Masks". I don't know if you've read it or heard of it, but it's one of the most influential books on international civil rights, anticolonial and black consciousness movements. I'm studying it because it helps me in my research on postcolonial literature. In your review, you sound very "politically correct", that is, you avoid using the word "black" and prefer instead "a boy of color" or "African-American children". Is it something you are doing on purpose or do you feel that the word "black" may still carry some negative connotations and you want to avoid it? In the book I've mentioned Fanon keeps repeating the dichotomy black/white with the ultimate goal of proving its uselessness. I have the book in front of me now; I just feel the need to quote his final words:MsTri wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 12:16 As a black parent - and now grandparent - it didn't even occur to me that such a comparison could be made. I was focused on the lesson that even superheroes do chores AND enjoy it... In my review, I did mention Tony's color, but I did so as a positive -
I like that the hero in question is a boy of color. In a genre where the superheros have historically been fair-skinned, it's important for little African-American children to see heroes who look like themselves. Since Black Panther is making a splash at the box office, the timing is on-point for our little hero.
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As for my terminology, my other half has a real aversion to "black", so I've gotten in the habit of using other words due to him, but I have no personal feelings about any of the descriptors, myself.
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Seeing your answer made me think perhaps I somehow made my question a little elusive. If I had seen the question, I would have probably answered the same as you: "I think it does matter - but (to me) it doesn't change a thing." On the one hand, I also think it matters in the overall historical context and it does matter because it makes a statement whether willingly or not. On the other hand, it does not matter for an adult with no racial prejudice or a young child whose innocence makes him oblivious to any racial distinctions. However, I think there is an ideological message the book carries with or without the author's intention.