God the Father

Nelson Chocha · Post by **Nelson Chocha** » 02 Jun 2020, 12:21

Officialboluwatife wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 16:08 I wouldn't say. This book touches the fundamentals of the Christian religion in relation to other fiction. This fiction can be misleading to non-religious people who won't be able to define where the fiction lies.

This is true, hence the book will be more understood by believers compared to non-believers. I can imagine the influence of being introduced to this book before recognizing the Bible.

Mwangi 20 · Post by **Mwangi 20** » 03 Jun 2020, 06:59

I love how the author portrays the character of God the Father. I see his actions all over the book are done with reason. I love the way the author portrays God's righteous way of judging, His judgement is fair to everyone not just to one party. He's also a God of love, as much as He chases Adam and Eve out the the garden, He still offers solution to them in their their daily lives.

Abigail Peake · Post by **Abigail Peake** » 03 Jun 2020, 11:39

Nelson Chocha wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 12:04 Killing Abel is a fictional description of a loving Father and His children founded on what little is disclosed in the Bible, in the book of Genesis.

What is your opinion on the context of this book in relation to the description of God, "God the Father is limited by His children's actions and His Children are limited by His actions as well"?.

Religion is a fascinating topic however the Bible describes God as Omnipotent and Omniscient, therefore how could he be limited by the things he ultimately created. He knows you before you know yourself.

J_odoyo · Post by **J_odoyo** » 03 Jun 2020, 13:06

In my opinion, I think the statement: "God the Father is limited by His children's actions and His Children are limited by His actions as well." Is out of place. I think God can't be limited by His children's actions. God is all powerful and His ability is limitless.

Bookreviwer2020 · Post by **Bookreviwer2020** » 03 Jun 2020, 13:28

I guess it depends on someone's beliefs. Some Christians believe in these things. However, I find the whole idea of our Creator being a 'father' and having sons is like a polytheism belief. However, the book is only fictional and he is writing to interest people so I think he is trying to entertain more than anything

Brenda Creech · Post by **Brenda Creech** » 03 Jun 2020, 17:57

Katie Canedy wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 17:27 The idea makes sense if one has an understanding of the Bible and how God treats His children. God provides unconditional love to us, which is why I say this.

I agree. And God wants His children to freely love Him, not because they have to. That is why we have free will. God will never force anyone to love Him. Maybe that is what the author meant by 'hindering' Him.

Raju Chacko · Post by **Raju Chacko** » 03 Jun 2020, 22:59

Isiah 46:10 says "I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, 'My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.'" Interestingly, the author's stand differs from this scripture. And Psalm 139:4 states that "Before a word is on my tongue you, Lord, know it completely." Both scriptures seem to imply that God already knew everything that would happen from the beginning to the end when he created man. There is nothing that will come as a surprise to Him. As He has perfect foreknowledge, He can control future events and turn destiny in whichever direction He wants. The author takes a different view which leads to a different interpretation between the state of affairs between God and man.

FaithMO19 · Post by **FaithMO19** » 03 Jun 2020, 23:56

Christians beg to differ, they believe that nothing can limit God.

Susmita Biswas · Post by **Susmita Biswas** » 04 Jun 2020, 09:12

I think God has already given us everything. He gave us a heart to love, a mind to choose from evil and good. It's up to our decision now.

Wyzdomania_Gskillz · Post by **Wyzdomania_Gskillz** » 04 Jun 2020, 10:23

Well, I think God is not limited in any sense. Whether when viewed through the lenses of the fictional representation in the book or otherwise. God set in place the rules that govern the earth including freewill for His children. He cannot hence, be considered as limited because He respects the rules he put in place for order. His children are however, limited in their ability to maximise their free will to choose God's best for them. God's ultimate purposes always comes to realisation even if the immediate one doesn't get actualised in any of His children's lives. That is a function of their own limitation not His

Jacktone Ogada · Post by **Jacktone Ogada** » 05 Jun 2020, 00:40

I would advice reading the book without religious prejudices whatsoever. Anyway, I have usually found the issue tricky. God is said to have given man free will to do whatsoever he pleases but is portrayed as having planned their lives and destinies before they were even born. So are we living what was already planned or what we choose? Do we even choose our lives if it was already planned?

Ana-Maria-Diana · Post by **Ana-Maria-Diana** » 05 Jun 2020, 03:19

I think that resembles a lot what I have read recently and it is because parents teach us to be the way they are because they don't know other way even if they would want us to be different. So God limites his children action because He knows no other way to teach them and his children limit his actions because they want to be different, but don't know how to really do it, only to rebel against him. This can be seen and very often used when Lucifer is described as the son of God how go against him. A kind of different perspective.

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 08:27

Nerea wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 14:48 Personally, I don't find the idea fascinating. It sound weird to me.

Agreed. The statement sounds weird and dangerous

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 08:30

Bhuvana Subramanyam wrote: ↑02 Jun 2020, 11:39 In my place, there is a saying that nothing happens without gods approval. So, maybe god's sons do what he planned for them to do, without even realising it!

This is true, it tallies very well with the concept of sovereignty

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 08:31

Nelson Chocha wrote: ↑02 Jun 2020, 12:21
Officialboluwatife wrote: ↑01 Jun 2020, 16:08 I wouldn't say. This book touches the fundamentals of the Christian religion in relation to other fiction. This fiction can be misleading to non-religious people who won't be able to define where the fiction lies.
This is true, hence the book will be more understood by believers compared to non-believers. I can imagine the influence of being introduced to this book before recognizing the Bible.

Its very devastating and can cause a persons faith to have a considerable level of shakiness or some misconceptions about God.