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Sushan wrote:
> Howlan wrote:
> > Nerea wrote:
> > > I'm satisfied with the steps the authors have provided for anxiety and
> > > stress relief. Thy a simply identified and explained. I find them
> > > practical. For instance, there is a part that mentions steps a patient need
> > > to follow when managing stress. The steps include, proper diet, regular
> > > exercise, and enough rest. Many medical practitioners recommend these steps
> > > too to their patients suffering from stress and get positive results. So
> > > yes, the steps provided in the book will deliver the expected result.
> >
> > Yes, in case of natural remedies the book lays down a well enough guide to
> follow it
> > on our own. Also, at the end of the book, we have a very helpful chart that can
> be
> > also useful to understand what steps to take in case of excess stress.
>
> This book is a practical guide. And it is well organized as well, there is no
> argument about that. But the author cannot predict how the reader will perceive and
> use the remedies which are mentioned. Even natural remedies can cause trouble when
> applied incorrectly

Yes, cannot attest to readers who act out of caution. Especially monitoring diet must be done appropriately as mentioned by the book.
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rahilshajahan wrote:
> The book clearly states the right amount to be take in case of each of the
> natural and synthetic remedies. In case of allergies or abnormal
> side-effects, the book does assert the reader to take help from a
> professional. To avoid any form of dire situations, I believe it is safer
> to meet with a medical practitioner before experimenting with drugs on your
> body.

I agree that you should definitely meet with a professional before experimenting with various high dose supplements or even the herbs. People assume it is safe because it is not a "chemical", but many of the medications and chemicals we use are based on compounds we've found in plants. Some of these, even natural, compounds can interact negatively with one another. For partially that reason, I was a bit torn on the 'practicality' of including specific dosages. Providing specific dosages empowers the individual to act without really any other second opinion.
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Gustavo's approach of highlighting the side effects and giving a word of caution makes the book relevant to a larger audience. An example is because you wouldn't fear sharing it with a younger but mature reader. And since anyone can discern between what is over the bar and what is not, the practicality aspect is evidently true.
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I don't think the steps outlined by the authors were meant to be used as a substitute for seeking medical intervention from professionals but more like a guide.

I have used some of the methods outlined for self help remedies.
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It is stated explicitly under the copyright notice that the book "is solely for educational and informational purposes and should not be regarded as a substitute for professional medical treatment". It also states that before beginning any change in diet, exercise, or taking of supplements, one should consult his/ her doctor. That being said, yes, it is a very practical book, and the suggestions can be used by most people. However, those that implement the suggested remedies should follow their own bodies as to whether or not the remedies are working as well as they had hoped. If the stress and anxiety get worse, there is no question that they should seek medical advice.
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The guide is pretty practical. It states various ways to help reduce anxiety. The chapters are very helpful and they give a lot of varied methods to reduce anxiety, such as herbal remedies, nutritional guidance, yoga, acupuncture, etc. This book gives natural remedies to people who may not want to take medications, and it does it splendidly well. The book is very organized, too, so finding whatever suits you and your needs is very easy.
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Yes, I think it's practical. Any therapy should start with the patient getting enough exercise and proper rest times. From there on the patient can extend the therapy further. I think the book is giving good advice for the first instance.
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The book is indeed a practical guide. It clearly states what to do to relieve stress and anxiety. However, professional advice is still important especially in complex cases.
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David_Kariuki wrote:
> Sushan wrote:
> > This is a practical guide to relieve anxiety and stress, by two authors who
> > are renowned as well as experienced in the subject.
> >
> > Yet, this is a book to read and understand by the reader him/herself, and
> > then to apply its content to get relieved from his/her anxiety and stress.
> >
> > To what extent this practice is practical? Without a proper assessment and
> > a guidance from a trained personnel, will it deliver the expected results?
> > Or will it worsen the issue?
> I would say, its a delicate balance. Delicate in the sense that there are certain
> remedies that are a bit complex and require proper handling and some remedies that
> can be used effortlessly without much guidance. In my opinion Given the great
> importance of one's mental health, the book should be mostly for reference.

The simple remedies can be understood by anybody and can self-apply them. But, as you said, it is better to have some guidance for the complex ones. And yes, it is better to use this as a reference or an educational material and keep the practical aspect for the professionals
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rahilshajahan wrote:
> The book clearly states the right amount to be take in case of each of the
> natural and synthetic remedies. In case of allergies or abnormal
> side-effects, the book does assert the reader to take help from a
> professional. To avoid any form of dire situations, I believe it is safer
> to meet with a medical practitioner before experimenting with drugs on your
> body.

Drugs can be good as well as bad for one's body. It is good if it helps to improve one's health. But what if something goes wrong and the patient faces an adverse reaction. So, yes, as you very correctly said, it is better to seek professional help before trying any medication
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NetMassimo wrote:
> I say yes, it's a practical guide as you get the information you need to
> know when you can take a remedy on your own, when you need to consult your
> doctor, when you could suffer from side-effects, and so on.

Yes, the book contains all those details, yet the book cannot asses the reader and only the reader is able to asses him/herself. How many of us are ready to accept that we are having some illness? Even if we accept that, do we believe that it can be serious? Most will take it mildly and try stuff like this, and that can cause more harm than any benefit
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> gabrielletiemi wrote:
> > I thought about that aspect too when I read the book. The author talks
> > about a lot of things that can worsen the situation, for example, when
> > talking about reducing gluten in the diet. It can bring a lot of different
> > problems, for example, the majority of gluten-free foods are expensive and
> > since whole wheat is a great source of fiber, not eating gluten could make
> > people feel worse if they don't substitute it correctly. Another aspect
> > that bothered me was that the author talked about GABA like you could take
> > as much as you'd like when it doesn't work that way.
>
> I think this narrows down to an individual's biological makeup and predisposition.
> Some of the recommendations will work for some people and not for others. The best
> thing about the book is its options. There's no a one fits all remedy.

The problem is each patient being unique. The problems are unique as well. How many of those patients can correctly asses their condition and decide what to do next? Assessing patients has to be done in an individual basis, and that is why there are no robots to replace healthcare practioners. The book offers you options, but you have to choose the correct one from them and apply correctly. Will it be correct always?
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> rahilshajahan wrote:
> > The book clearly states the right amount to be take in case of each of the
> > natural and synthetic remedies. In case of allergies or abnormal
> > side-effects, the book does assert the reader to take help from a
> > professional. To avoid any form of dire situations, I believe it is safer
> > to meet with a medical practitioner before experimenting with drugs on your
> > body.
>
> The fact that you can also try a natural method before turning to medication is also
> a plus from the author.

Natural methods are really good and has been used and being tested for many years. Yet, when a medication is needed, it has to be taken rather than going on with natural remedies. Natural remedies have proven benefits, but in most of cases not in the scientific methods that are currently accepted, but by experience. Anyway, natural methods have less side effects in most situations than medications
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Elvis Best wrote:
> Oh I believe this book is very practical, as the author offers a variety of
> methods to help the reader deal with their anxiety and stress. Granted, the
> author encourages the reader to see a professional in extreme cases and not
> to substitute their book for professional help, but I believe that for most
> of us, the information in the book will suffice in helping us solve our
> anxiety issues.

Yes, there is no doubt about the book being helpful in minor situations. And it is true that the author encourages patients with severe illnesses to see a professional. But how many patients with psychiatric issues are ready to expose themselves and get treatment? Many will stay at home and try to try these remedies, and it will worsen the situation
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Sushan wrote:
> Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> > gabrielletiemi wrote:
> > > I thought about that aspect too when I read the book. The author talks
> > > about a lot of things that can worsen the situation, for example, when
> > > talking about reducing gluten in the diet. It can bring a lot of different
> > > problems, for example, the majority of gluten-free foods are expensive and
> > > since whole wheat is a great source of fiber, not eating gluten could make
> > > people feel worse if they don't substitute it correctly. Another aspect
> > > that bothered me was that the author talked about GABA like you could take
> > > as much as you'd like when it doesn't work that way.
> >
> > I think this narrows down to an individual's biological makeup and
> predisposition.
> > Some of the recommendations will work for some people and not for others. The
> best
> > thing about the book is its options. There's no a one fits all remedy.
>
> The problem is each patient being unique. The problems are unique as well. How many
> of those patients can correctly asses their condition and decide what to do next?
> Assessing patients has to be done in an individual basis, and that is why there are
> no robots to replace healthcare practioners. The book offers you options, but you
> have to choose the correct one from them and apply correctly. Will it be correct
> always?

I think the correctness of the remedy you chose is not guaranteed to every person. That's why there's a word of caution from Gustavo. I agree that professional assistance is a better way to go. But I think it should be done when the case is severe.
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