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As I began to read more into his teachings, I had to take a step back a bit to digest what he was saying. I think he tried to put enough context into the beginning to relate to the teachings later on in the story, but he missed the mark a bit on some of them. I question his Amazon vision because it was under the influence of the natem. I also wonder why he didn't question it himself as his belief was founded on questions.mmm17 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2019, 09:58 Good point. I would also like some clarification on certain parts, especially on how exactly the visions happen. I was really curious about them. Were they just dreams? Maybe very vivid, emotional dreams? In the Amazon he was awake, but had ingested substances. Anyway, I agree that maybe we are trying to read this too literally.
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Honestly, this book won't appeal to readers who are not drawn to spiritual awakening. These things are better experienced individually as no human words could perfectly explain spiritual mysteries. I think the book has so much information already. The author has other books. Perhaps you could find some answers to your questions there. There are some things you'd never understand at first read. You may need to read again and again to gain understanding.Letora wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 13:29 I am finding that while reading this I wish there was more context in certain situations. For example, during Robert's vision quest, he states that the questions he had were in fact not important by the middle of the day. What do you think those questions could have been? He also mentioned that his priorities were not in order. What were those priorities? Were these things in general about life, or the process of the vision quest itself? He also didn't seem to have a vision. Instead, he experienced intense emotions. Maybe I am trying to read this too literally? What are your thoughts on the chapter about vision quests, and did you have any other chapters that you needed clarification on?
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As you have mentioned, even I found a few things which were quite complicated for me to understand. Like, Richard says that the body can decide about the best suitable food for it without our interference. This concept I could not understand. I even found a few techniques mentioned in regards to getting the awareness of spirituality to be quite difficult to comprehend.
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NuelUkah wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 04:43Honestly, this book won't appeal to readers who are not drawn to spiritual awakening. These things are better experienced individually as no human words could perfectly explain spiritual mysteries. I think the book has so much information already. The author has other books. Perhaps you could find some answers to your questions there. There are some things you'd never understand at first read. You may need to read again and again to gain understanding.Letora wrote: ↑09 Mar 2019, 13:29 I am finding that while reading this I wish there was more context in certain situations. For example, during Robert's vision quest, he states that the questions he had were in fact not important by the middle of the day. What do you think those questions could have been? He also mentioned that his priorities were not in order. What were those priorities? Were these things in general about life, or the process of the vision quest itself? He also didn't seem to have a vision. Instead, he experienced intense emotions. Maybe I am trying to read this too literally? What are your thoughts on the chapter about vision quests, and did you have any other chapters that you needed clarification on?
You said it best. I know for myself that I will want to read this book again frequently. Haight covers so much information that it is impossible to expect to understand everything he has written in one reading.
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Yes, I agree with this 100%. I, too, would like to know more about why and when things happened. Because the author decided to make the first part a memoir, he should have been more descriptive. If it was a spiritual guide only, the details would not have been so important. I feel like he is trying to hide parts of his life. For instance when he talks about a mentor helping him get away from the darker side of mysticism, it would have been nice to know exactly what he was talking about.
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