Do you think the novel would have benefited from a greater female presence?
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Re: Do you think the novel would have benefited from a greater female presence?
There is a lot of historical fiction that portrays women as well, but you can't just blame authors for not writing about them. These historical women are worth writing but I think a male author writing about the life of a woman in historical times is not good enough otherwise they will just fall into stereotypes and the author will get more backlash about it. I think if men wanted to write about women in historical times, they would need a lot of research about it because as the timeline suggests, news abut women were suppressed and often dismissed. Let the author write about what he wants and not judge them for not writing about women more. At the end of the day, it's the story that matters. Even Sarah is well-represented in this book so I don't get the fuss about this leading to thoughts that the author is sexist or a coward.ViziVoir wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 15:58 Honestly, this is one of the biggest reasons I don't read historical fiction. Some authors seem to think that women in historical fiction aren't worth writing much about, probably because what they could and couldn't do was so strictly limited by society at the time. At the end of the day, it's a matter of taste.
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Agreed! And also, doing research on female presence during the war would be tedious and taxing since the news were more centered on men. I like it when historical fiction is accurate because it gives you a glimpse on what happened in that timeline, to make readers aware of the oppressive nature in that timeline. Making it askew just to please or "benefit more" is just wrong for me.pricklypurple wrote: ↑09 Oct 2019, 16:29 I don't think adding more females into the story would take away from it, but it might make it less historically accurate. I like when historical fiction is mostly accurate.
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I don't think it is necessary to have a strong female lead in EVERY story. However, this author generally does not write women well. His description and creation of female characters are very cliche and overused, as is typical with many male authors.ArriettyClock wrote: ↑02 Oct 2019, 08:20 I love this series by Greg Kater, however, I often feel like the amazing female characters could have a larger part to play in the novels.
For example, in "Skills of the Warramunga" Sarah, Jacko's half-sister is feisty, courageous and has amazing bush-skills. I was extremely impressed by her tracking skills. She's an inspiration to young women in her demeanor and independence.
Do you think the novel would have benefited from a greater inclusion of these amazing female characters? Or do you think that this would have been inappropriate in the historical setting of the novel?
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I would have liked to see Sarah’s character better developed though. Even though she has amazing skills and is clearly an important part of the team, her character is made to appear very childish at times.
She leads them through the jungle and tracks like no one else can, but the lines she is given are like those of a little girl. I’m not familiar with aborigine culture, and maybe this portrayal was authentic, I don’t know. But these parts of the book were very glaring to me.
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I also think it's interesting that the main female character, Sarah, doesn't speak all that much English, so the men can make good use of her bush skills but she doesn't really take a decision-making or analyzing role in the story. I would have loved to know what she was thinking at some points!
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Agreed. There is a strong stereotype throughout colonial history of viewing aborigines/native people as childlike, immature, ignorant etc. The characterization of Sarah plays right into this.e-tasana-williams wrote: ↑22 Oct 2019, 21:05 I would have liked to see Sarah’s character better developed though. Even though she has amazing skills and is clearly an important part of the team, her character is made to appear very childish at times.
She leads them through the jungle and tracks like no one else can, but the lines she is given are like those of a little girl. I’m not familiar with aborigine culture, and maybe this portrayal was authentic, I don’t know. But these parts of the book were very glaring to me.
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The others were mostly cliches. I’m saying this based on what I’ve read in this book, haven’t got a clue how they were in the previous books.
And I think that it is historically accurate somehow. It’s after the second world war and it is Malaya.
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Nevertheless, it is to be noted that even in Biblical times the roles of women were understated and men were at the front - teaching/preaching/making much of the laws of the lands. So, the time frame given to the story would affect how much representation was given to female characters.