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I think the author took the easy way out with this one instead of finding a way to develop Mark and Adam’s relationship.Howlan wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 09:19Yes, when finally Adam came to his senses and thought that he needs to deal properly with his father, he was killed off. The author wasted a huge subplot to carelessly killing Adam's father.Nym182 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2020, 13:55I also felt that his death/character was treated very harshly... Especially considering he wasn't involved with the bond between Jo and Adam... That really could have made him feel left out, (which Adams distaste for him didn't help) which could have lead to his cheating... (obviously I am not condoning what he did) I just kinda felt his character was created just for adam to hate and that's it... his character could have been developed a bit more... I think it would have been interesting if Adam had a decent relationship with him That would have caused more turmoil within adam after finding out that he cheating on his mom. Instead, his cheating just proved Adam right.ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 19:39 Mark seemed like a weak character (his cheating and gaslighting his wife) but I thought his death was a bit harsh. Perhaps it was supposed to illustrate that Adam had gained the ability to feel remorse, even about the death of a person whom he had a contentious relationship with.
On the one hand Dauma says he was worth saving and then suddenly she’s out of control and kills him? I don’t think that happened at all. I think she saw they were losing and felt there was no other choice.
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Yes, considering the fact that their next meeting could force some great questions for Adam, it was a waste of a character.Jocelyn Eastman wrote: ↑13 Feb 2020, 10:06I think the author took the easy way out with this one instead of finding a way to develop Mark and Adam’s relationship.Howlan wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 09:19Yes, when finally Adam came to his senses and thought that he needs to deal properly with his father, he was killed off. The author wasted a huge subplot to carelessly killing Adam's father.Nym182 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2020, 13:55
I also felt that his death/character was treated very harshly... Especially considering he wasn't involved with the bond between Jo and Adam... That really could have made him feel left out, (which Adams distaste for him didn't help) which could have lead to his cheating... (obviously I am not condoning what he did) I just kinda felt his character was created just for adam to hate and that's it... his character could have been developed a bit more... I think it would have been interesting if Adam had a decent relationship with him That would have caused more turmoil within adam after finding out that he cheating on his mom. Instead, his cheating just proved Adam right.
On the one hand Dauma says he was worth saving and then suddenly she’s out of control and kills him? I don’t think that happened at all. I think she saw they were losing and felt there was no other choice.
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I think that was too harsh a punishment for adultry. And from what it looked like, he loved his son even if Adam did not love him back.cristinaro wrote: ↑15 Feb 2020, 05:16 In a twisted way, I guess Adam's father's death was a form of punishment for the fact that he cheated on Jo. However, it came out of nowhere and was not in accordance with what we knew of Dauma's great power.
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Yes, "Your mother is not a dumb woman" is a kind of tagline for Dauma, and she lived maintaining that for most of the time except at the end when the loss of her mother hits her emotionally and she makes some bad judgements.nfdoughe wrote: ↑14 Feb 2020, 11:29 In the book, Carly did say something about her mother not having to use that much energy or whatnot. Dauma's line is something like "Your mother is not a dumb woman", so we're left to believe there is some reason for it all. At the same time, it was said that if Adam's father hadn't been standing, he would have survived. So it's his fault? I don't know, I wasn't thrilled with the whole situation. It seems off.
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I get your point, I don't think that she did it with her full consciousness. She was laden with grief and the actions she took was totally not in her right state of mind.rbrochhausen wrote: ↑20 Feb 2020, 17:26 I don't believe Dauma was selfish. I think it could have been stopped, but in the chaos of war, Dauma might have lost control of her powers. With Dauma seemingly having the most experience with using and controlling her abilities, I found that a bit odd, but it wasn't a selfish move.
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That's a really interesting point!
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I agree with this. Dauma was a badass, that's for sure. And her lack of control added a bit of dimension to her character.
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Man, with all of the sh*t that was going on in the book, I entirely forgot that Adam's dad cheated on his mom. There was a lot of crazy sh*t going on in that book.ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 19:39 Mark seemed like a weak character (his cheating and gaslighting his wife) but I thought his death was a bit harsh. Perhaps it was supposed to illustrate that Adam had gained the ability to feel remorse, even about the death of a person whom he had a contentious relationship with.
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That's a good point. There was a chance for Adam to develop as a character, and that opportunity was essentially stolen from him.Howlan wrote: ↑11 Feb 2020, 09:19Yes, when finally Adam came to his senses and thought that he needs to deal properly with his father, he was killed off. The author wasted a huge subplot to carelessly killing Adam's father.Nym182 wrote: ↑07 Feb 2020, 13:55I also felt that his death/character was treated very harshly... Especially considering he wasn't involved with the bond between Jo and Adam... That really could have made him feel left out, (which Adams distaste for him didn't help) which could have lead to his cheating... (obviously I am not condoning what he did) I just kinda felt his character was created just for adam to hate and that's it... his character could have been developed a bit more... I think it would have been interesting if Adam had a decent relationship with him That would have caused more turmoil within adam after finding out that he cheating on his mom. Instead, his cheating just proved Adam right.ciecheesemeister wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 19:39 Mark seemed like a weak character (his cheating and gaslighting his wife) but I thought his death was a bit harsh. Perhaps it was supposed to illustrate that Adam had gained the ability to feel remorse, even about the death of a person whom he had a contentious relationship with.