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Jocelyn Eastman wrote: 07 Mar 2020, 21:40
B Creech wrote: 02 Mar 2020, 13:26 What is your opinion of Seamus? Good guy or a bad guy? I didn't like him at all. I felt he was greedy. He supposedly loved Bridget but he also wanted his cut of money for the amusement park. He knew Bridget could be in danger when she started getting the dolls. But, he was more focused on getting his money!
He was totally in it for the money! But he did try to get her to stop following her path. I don’t think he’s totally heartless, but his priority was definitely the money. He knew she was in danger after the phone call with Dermont, but decided he wanted his money. It ends up driving him mad.
Very well said! He definitely had a lot of guilt and remorse after the fact. Greed can change a person and make them do things perhaps they never would have done otherwise.
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Ofcourse he was not a good Character. he's what everyone should avoid, a big walking red flag. But we all have such people around us, unknowingly
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Greedy, arrogant and totally unlikeable. I was not a fan of Seamus at all. And I would argue that he never loved Bridget truly.
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Seamus is typical of that guy you don't want to be around you. He is manipulative and selfish. I liked that the without developed his character around these.
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I haven't gotten a chance to read the whole book, but Seamus is quite the character. For people like him, love is perfunctory, a means to an end. His love for Bridget is only as good as her usefulness to him.
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Seamus was complex and I think he really did love Bridget, just not as much as he loved power and money. He knowingly began a relationship with her in order to be able to manipulate her and used things like a marriage proposal to maneuver her into doing what he wanted. Like many people mentioned, he also did nothing to protect Bridget from the danger that perhaps only he really understood. His own actions made her death that much worse on him. In the end, he was his own punishment.
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As there seems to be a general agreement as to the nastiness of the character, it would be interesting to defend him, even if it is playing the role of the devil's advocate.
I suppose he was stuck in his position both by the hope of a fortune coming his way and by the fear of opposing a mobster. And he did not kill the little girl.
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aacodreanu wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 11:56 As there seems to be a general agreement as to the nastiness of the character, it would be interesting to defend him, even if it is playing the role of the devil's advocate.
I suppose he was stuck in his position both by the hope of a fortune coming his way and by the fear of opposing a mobster. And he did not kill the little girl.
bellajavier wrote: 08 Mar 2020, 09:34 Ofcourse he was not a good Character. he's what everyone should avoid, a big walking red flag. But we all have such people around us, unknowingly
Yes, I agree we all have people such as that around us, unknowingly. Greed isn't always about money, it can be about most anything.
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aacodreanu wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 11:56 As there seems to be a general agreement as to the nastiness of the character, it would be interesting to defend him, even if it is playing the role of the devil's advocate.
I suppose he was stuck in his position both by the hope of a fortune coming his way and by the fear of opposing a mobster. And he did not kill the little girl.
That's all true. I don't think he ever intended to kill Claire, just frighten Hilary so she would go home. And I can even understand his fear of a mobster, but I still feel he should have done something to protect Bridget. He knew she was in danger yet he just kept trying to get her to change her mind about the memorial so he could get his money! His greed overtook his heart.
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Sam Ibeh wrote: 08 Mar 2020, 23:13 Seamus is typical of that guy you don't want to be around you. He is manipulative and selfish. I liked that the without developed his character around these.
Absolutely! I felt he was self-involved and only had one goal - to grab the money. I wonder if he would have still wanted to marry Bridget if she had changed her mind about the memorial and he had gotten his money? I Guess we'll never know!
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camwilliams wrote: 09 Mar 2020, 12:21 Seamus was complex and I think he really did love Bridget, just not as much as he loved power and money. He knowingly began a relationship with her in order to be able to manipulate her and used things like a marriage proposal to maneuver her into doing what he wanted. Like many people mentioned, he also did nothing to protect Bridget from the danger that perhaps only he really understood. His own actions made her death that much worse on him. In the end, he was his own punishment.
Very well said! He was complex, and I think he loved Bridget in his own shallow way. He basically wanted to have his cake and eat it too, as the saying goes!
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Seamus was shady. He was only out for himself. If he really loved Bridget he would have told her the truth to keep her safe. That he had no problem taking Claire and putting her in danger also shows what a jerk he was.
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Michelle Fred wrote: 09 Mar 2020, 08:50 I haven't gotten a chance to read the whole book, but Seamus is quite the character. For people like him, love is perfunctory, a means to an end. His love for Bridget is only as good as her usefulness to him.
That is a great way of putting it! He would have done anything to get her to change her mind about the memorial. That was evidenced by his marriage proposal!
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Barbara6886 wrote: 10 Mar 2020, 13:04 Seamus was shady. He was only out for himself. If he really loved Bridget he would have told her the truth to keep her safe. That he had no problem taking Claire and putting her in danger also shows what a jerk he was.
I definitely agree with you in both counts!
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Seamus is definitely a bad guy. He is Dermot's project, and he doesn't reveal his true intentions to Bridget. Anyway, Bridget's charm is confusing him.
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