Okay so when you said how Mason doesn’t think much of Kalin and thinks he probably doesn’t know much about socializing bc of the frat stunt, I did want to reply to that one part because I forgot to earlier.JudasFm wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020, 10:55Noperaindropreader wrote: ↑21 Apr 2020, 09:47 But wait... if they only have one containment room suitable for projects why would Mason ever think of or go with this idea of kidnapping Kalin if he had the foresight to know that he would put in the same containment room as Tau and obviously tell him that he was a clone and explain the outside world etc and that would obviously lead to the uprising and destruction of the experimenters and entire facility. Wouldn’t he have foreseen this happening?
Okay, seriously; Mason isn't a scientist, for one thing. He's an administrator, and not a very smart one.
Secondly, Tau knows he's a clone. He doesn't need Kalin to tell him; the scientists have made very sure he knows all about that. He's completely brainwashed, and remember that the scientists don't believe Tau is capable (or inclined to) start conversations. Renfield speaks for all of them when he's visibly astonished that Kalin and Tau actually talk; like all his contemporaries, he believes that Tau simply goes in, lies down and goes to sleep.
There's also nothing obvious about it. Mason doesn't know how Kalin's likely to react, or how Tau's likely to react; although he can make a good guess that someone who does something as desperately stupid as breaking into GenTech for a frat stunt probably doesn't have any real friends and hasn't had much experience in socializing.
Also, in the beginning, Kalin also believes that Projects are sub-human (the fact that he considers, "Do you feel pain?" to be a perfectly valid question to ask Tau sums up his attitude perfectly ) He's not going to tell Tau anything that the scientists haven't already told him, although he would probably use naughtier words
Kalin only wants to help Tau after Kalin himself has been beaten and gaslighted into believing that he's a Project. He's not particularly altruistic, he's not a revolutionary; his actions aren't born of righteous anger so much as the desperate need to escape while they still can.
The only person who might have foreseen problems is Dennison, and he's very convinced that he can control and dominate Tau (as, indeed, he does right up until the very end of the book)
I guess what I mean to be asking is... okay let’s just take the fact that Kalin is human. No matter if he was living under a rock or a hermit or the least social guy he’s still a human with our basic moral set, which is to say that he would believe torturing a clone isn’t morally right. So just because Kalin isn’t a social person... he still would most likely react like the majority of humans and be like wtf this is wrong and that would of course result in him telling Tau in some way, right? It just seems like putting someone from the outside world in with one of their experiments would raise that risk.