Was sending Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden a blessing or a curse?

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:27

Claris L wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:23
Leen282 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 11:40 I didn't read it as a curse. To me, it's a consequence of their actions. Since there's no comparison to what their life would have been had they been allowed to stay, it's hard to say if in the end it's more a curse or more a blessing.
This sums up how I feel about sending Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden as well. It makes sense that they were sent away, given what they did do, and since there is no idea about what it's like if they're allowed to stay, we can't compare what it would be like if they stayed.

But now that we know what we suffer without the blessings of Hod so going after God is sure to give great joy which i had hoped the writer would emphasize more.

Nama Winnie · Post by **Nama Winnie** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:32

Dee_Robert wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:16
Nama Winnie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 05:36
JM Reviews wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?
Knowing my creation story I've always thought that man was sent away as a punishment. I do not how it could possibly be good with all the suffering you see around.

I haven't read this book yet, but really hope to. If it has all these angles to this story, I'm curious
Bother to read the book and a little bit of the Bible, you'll see that God does everything to restore us to that beautiful garden relationship we had with Him.

I'll do that, I feel challenged. Maybe I don't know the bible as well as I thought

Claris L · Post by **Claris L** » 05 Jun 2020, 09:32

Dee_Robert wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:27
Claris L wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:23
Leen282 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 11:40 I didn't read it as a curse. To me, it's a consequence of their actions. Since there's no comparison to what their life would have been had they been allowed to stay, it's hard to say if in the end it's more a curse or more a blessing.
This sums up how I feel about sending Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden as well. It makes sense that they were sent away, given what they did do, and since there is no idea about what it's like if they're allowed to stay, we can't compare what it would be like if they stayed.
But now that we know what we suffer without the blessings of Hod so going after God is sure to give great joy which i had hoped the writer would emphasize more.

That is a fair point. I do wish the writer emphasized that more, too.

Dee_Robert · Post by **Dee_Robert** » 05 Jun 2020, 10:07

Nama Winnie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:32
Dee_Robert wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:16
Nama Winnie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 05:36

Knowing my creation story I've always thought that man was sent away as a punishment. I do not how it could possibly be good with all the suffering you see around.

I haven't read this book yet, but really hope to. If it has all these angles to this story, I'm curious
Bother to read the book and a little bit of the Bible, you'll see that God does everything to restore us to that beautiful garden relationship we had with Him.
I'll do that, I feel challenged. Maybe I don't know the bible as well as I thought

Well that wasn't my intention
But great, there may be blessings for me being your motivation, haha!

Kelyn · Post by **Kelyn** » 05 Jun 2020, 10:32

Well, I don't think it was much of a blessing given what Adam and Eve would now have to endure just to survive and procreate. As a curse, it was pretty effective. They had broken trust with God by siding with Lucifer. Even though they were just 'newborns,' that deserves more than a slap on the wrist and a "bad do." He made certain that consequences were given. I personally think that it was handled with too heavy a hand, but the 'curse' certainly got the message across loud and clear!

Elizabeth Pass · Post by **Elizabeth Pass** » 05 Jun 2020, 11:03

God knew exactly what he was doing when he sent them from the garden. We, as fallible beings, try to rationalize and justify His decisions. True faith helps us get over those needs.

Laila Hashem · Post by **Laila Hashem** » 05 Jun 2020, 11:12

I think it was a fair and justified response (neither a blessing nor a curse) to an action that was beforehand deemed wrong. I don't believe God would curse people in general, though.

Nama Winnie · Post by **Nama Winnie** » 05 Jun 2020, 11:37

Dee_Robert wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 10:07
Nama Winnie wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:32
Dee_Robert wrote: ↑05 Jun 2020, 09:16

Bother to read the book and a little bit of the Bible, you'll see that God does everything to restore us to that beautiful garden relationship we had with Him.
I'll do that, I feel challenged. Maybe I don't know the bible as well as I thought
Well that wasn't my intention
But great, there may be blessings for me being your motivation, haha!

Who knows right?

SophiaNd · Post by **SophiaNd** » 05 Jun 2020, 11:39

I think God sent Adam and Even away from the garden of Eden for their own good because if they had eaten from the tree of life after haven eaten from the tree of good and evil, they would have become monsters.

Wuoketch · Post by **Wuoketch** » 05 Jun 2020, 14:39

It was neither. This was all God's plans, He knew both Adam and Eve will eat the fruit and would then send them to the world to fulfill his will.

Amanda Nicole Newton · Post by **Amanda Nicole Newton** » 05 Jun 2020, 19:34

It didn't seem so much a curse as a consequence. Like putting a child in time out for misbehaving. Yes, it was a bit more serious than that, but I hope you understand what I mean. God gave them one rule. They broke it. He went through with punishing them for it, but gave them ways to redeem themselves and wind up back in paradise when they die.

Laura Lee · Post by **Laura Lee** » 05 Jun 2020, 22:00

No, I don't think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer. After all, he didn't stay behind, locked up in the Garden of Eden. The main reason was to remove them from access to the tree of life so that they did not become immortal sinners.

So, to answer your question: yes. Had they eaten of the tree of life after becoming sinners, it would have drastically worsened the situation.

Post by **Melisa Jane** » 06 Jun 2020, 00:57

Yuffielyn wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:50
JM Reviews wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?
I think God sent them away to know how much they have fait to are God and protect them because God still forgiven people who have sins thats why he sent his only son Jesus to save us/forgive or sins.

So, in short, they received absolutely no punishment for breaking the law of the Garden? So there wasn't any justice?

Post by **Melisa Jane** » 06 Jun 2020, 00:58

Alice Ngugi wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 05:03 I believe it was both a blessing and a curse. In the garden they could not enjoy the varying levels of emotions such as sadness and pain, at that they would not be able to fully appreciate the good times. The curse comes with separation from God and even facing death ultimately.

I partly agree with you. But, what's there to enjoy with emotions. I don't think emotions are "a blessing" as you put it.

Post by **Melisa Jane** » 06 Jun 2020, 01:01

Alexandros92 wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 06:56 Sending them out of the Garden is neither. It is just the natural outcome of their choice. Since the fruit basically symbolizes the lack of trust toward nature and God and thus the awaking of the Ego and the need for knowledge, it is only natural that human beings found themselves to be isolated. It is not a curse and not a blessing.

If humans trusted God and let go of their Ego, the gates of Eden would reopen in the afterlife. It is a choice, nobody is punishing us.

If I understand your statement correctly, the dids of Adam and Eve met absolutely no reaction from God? God didn't punish them for the sins they committed. What happened to the "just" God?