Three phases of a Life of a Christian

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04 Jun 2020, 23:51
I am a Christian and I've felt God's grace throughout my life. I don't think you need to be in a crisis to receive grace. Though that's how most people experience God. I somehow feel sad about the fact that we remember God only when we are in a crisis. We don't thank God when we're happy but the moment we are faced with tough times we run to God. And as usual, God helps us recover, and after we get back on our feet we forget Him again, until we're in another crisis. And our entire lives are over in this cycle.
What you point out is a sad truth. We remember those who help us only when we are in need of help
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I quite agree with the author's three phased subdivision of the Christian's life, and yes I have practiced it so it's practical.
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05 Jun 2020, 04:57
I quite agree with the author's three phased subdivision of the Christian's life, and yes I have practiced it so it's practical.
The ones who practised it knows for what extent it is practical, and it is totally a subjective matter
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Sushan wrote:
05 Jun 2020, 08:13
Aaron Ambers wrote:
05 Jun 2020, 04:57
I quite agree with the author's three phased subdivision of the Christian's life, and yes I have practiced it so it's practical.
The ones who practised it knows for what extent it is practical, and it is totally a subjective matter
Very subjective @ Sushan.
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I think the three phases make sense. However, I feel like I bounce between the first two phases (facing a crisis and receiving grace) rather than heading to the third phase of returning grace to others. It's something I personally need to work on.

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Claris L wrote:
05 Jun 2020, 09:51
I think the three phases make sense. However, I feel like I bounce between the first two phases (facing a crisis and receiving grace) rather than heading to the third phase of returning grace to others. It's something I personally need to work on.
Returning grace is something that needs practice, and one can face crisis as well as grace recurrently
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In a way, I will say the three phases are almost through because we all go through something in our lives no matter what stage and we can only overcome it by God's Grace and when you have overcome something, you are now able to help someone else.

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SophiaNd wrote:
06 Jun 2020, 12:15
In a way, I will say the three phases are almost through because we all go through something in our lives no matter what stage and we can only overcome it by God's Grace and when you have overcome something, you are now able to help someone else.
That is very correct. When you are in trouble, it is difficult to lend your hand to another
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I generally agree with that sentiment, but might clarify what it means. I grew up in a church that often dramatized what it meant to have a 'religious conversion'. We were implicitly taught to expect that one must hit a stereotypical rock bottom before receiving some sort of direct divine intervention that leads them to Christ. Think "alcoholic getting in a motorcycle crash and coming to God in the emergency room". Id like to share that a crisis doesnt need to take on such a dramatic form to be spiritually significant. My crisis probably came from a desire to discover meaning that I wasn't getting from the tedium of every day life. It probably peaked when I got rejected from several of my dream colleges, and had to settle for a safety school. Over time I came to accept that I was probably a nudging from God to find meaning from him, and not from the social status I was trying to achieve through acceptance to prestigious universities.

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07 Jun 2020, 00:09
I generally agree with that sentiment, but might clarify what it means. I grew up in a church that often dramatized what it meant to have a 'religious conversion'. We were implicitly taught to expect that one must hit a stereotypical rock bottom before receiving some sort of direct divine intervention that leads them to Christ. Think "alcoholic getting in a motorcycle crash and coming to God in the emergency room". Id like to share that a crisis doesnt need to take on such a dramatic form to be spiritually significant. My crisis probably came from a desire to discover meaning that I wasn't getting from the tedium of every day life. It probably peaked when I got rejected from several of my dream colleges, and had to settle for a safety school. Over time I came to accept that I was probably a nudging from God to find meaning from him, and not from the social status I was trying to achieve through acceptance to prestigious universities.
'Hitting rock bottom' is not a common crisis to everyone, and no such level crisis is needed to receive God's grace
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I think this is an oversimplification. Life is never this straight forward, it's a series of ups and downs and constant changes as well as immense patience. In my opinion and experience, it's a lot more than the three and its a constant process.

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I feel like this cycle can also be true in life of people who are not Christian. People extend grace as well. I just had someone buy me groceries because I could not and it made me want to give back because I felt so blessed by it.

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To a smaller extent I agree with the author on the first phase, that is a crisis leading to receiving grace. Some Christians just need grace to be revealed to them regardless of their situation. Also, the three phases described are really what we usually see but completing this circle has never been easy among believers; that part of returning grace to others.

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Gudamercy wrote:
07 Jun 2020, 15:32
I think this is an oversimplification. Life is never this straight forward, it's a series of ups and downs and constant changes as well as immense patience. In my opinion and experience, it's a lot more than the three and its a constant process.
There is a lot more to elaborate. And this is, as you correctly said, a simplification
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Amesthenerd wrote:
07 Jun 2020, 17:24
I feel like this cycle can also be true in life of people who are not Christian. People extend grace as well. I just had someone buy me groceries because I could not and it made me want to give back because I felt so blessed by it.
You don't have to belong to any religion to go through these phases, and you can interpret them in your own manner
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