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I agree with this. Although I know that kids at that age are tough to manage and that many of them are pretty self-centered, there was something off about her character. Perhaps it's just that the writing didn't help me out, but I felt like there was almost something disconnected about her. She didn't really engage in emotions very well, didn't really process Sarah's death well, and she was utterly obsessed with dark things. I mean, sure, some kids get a kick out of scary things, but I don't know if I've met a child that in love with ghosts and death unless they have experienced something traumatic. Perhaps I just haven't spent enough time with kids that age, though.
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Yes! I actually found it easier to emotionally connect and care about Claire than Hillary. Claire's character was a lot easier to process and understand, where Hillary's character never quite felt solid for me.NetMassimo wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 06:04 I agree. I found funny that I could get Claire more easily than Hillary even if I'm probably older than Hillary.
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I wasn't a fan of Claire either, and my eyes and brain hurt more with every passing 'Maaaaaa'. I just heard a sheep.sirbobthewise wrote: ↑09 Jun 2020, 02:03I agree with this. Although I know that kids at that age are tough to manage and that many of them are pretty self-centered, there was something off about her character. Perhaps it's just that the writing didn't help me out, but I felt like there was almost something disconnected about her. She didn't really engage in emotions very well, didn't really process Sarah's death well, and she was utterly obsessed with dark things. I mean, sure, some kids get a kick out of scary things, but I don't know if I've met a child that in love with ghosts and death unless they have experienced something traumatic. Perhaps I just haven't spent enough time with kids that age, though.
Flippancy aside, her reaction to Sarah's death was not believable at all. I felt Claire was a little false and mainly used for plot development.
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I agree with Claire being used mainly for plot development. I would even say that Sarah was used for that reason, as well, which is a little frustrating, because it makes me feel like these characters were introduced into the story just so that something terrible could happen to them and move the story along. That feels kinda icky. Especially because I still don't really understand the circumstances and rationale behind Sarah's death. Out of all of the sub-characters in Hillary's circle, I think Ed might have added the most value; but, their relationship felt very odd to me, as well.ThomasCShearman1976 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2020, 12:33I wasn't a fan of Claire either, and my eyes and brain hurt more with every passing 'Maaaaaa'. I just heard a sheep.sirbobthewise wrote: ↑09 Jun 2020, 02:03I agree with this. Although I know that kids at that age are tough to manage and that many of them are pretty self-centered, there was something off about her character. Perhaps it's just that the writing didn't help me out, but I felt like there was almost something disconnected about her. She didn't really engage in emotions very well, didn't really process Sarah's death well, and she was utterly obsessed with dark things. I mean, sure, some kids get a kick out of scary things, but I don't know if I've met a child that in love with ghosts and death unless they have experienced something traumatic. Perhaps I just haven't spent enough time with kids that age, though.
Flippancy aside, her reaction to Sarah's death was not believable at all. I felt Claire was a little false and mainly used for plot development.
Now that I think about it, though, I think it has to do with the fact that I never really emotionally connected with Hillary; and due to the fact that the book takes Hillary's perspective, it would make sense that I would struggle with connecting to the other characters because her words and thoughts just always felt off to me. Then again, I've only ever read this book out of the series, so I might feel differently if I read the previous books.
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I, too, have only read this book in the series and wondered if that was part of the disconnect. And Sarah's death was sudden, unexplained and then life just seemed to carry on afterwards.sirbobthewise wrote: ↑09 Jun 2020, 19:03I agree with Claire being used mainly for plot development. I would even say that Sarah was used for that reason, as well, which is a little frustrating, because it makes me feel like these characters were introduced into the story just so that something terrible could happen to them and move the story along. That feels kinda icky. Especially because I still don't really understand the circumstances and rationale behind Sarah's death. Out of all of the sub-characters in Hillary's circle, I think Ed might have added the most value; but, their relationship felt very odd to me, as well.ThomasCShearman1976 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2020, 12:33I wasn't a fan of Claire either, and my eyes and brain hurt more with every passing 'Maaaaaa'. I just heard a sheep.sirbobthewise wrote: ↑09 Jun 2020, 02:03
I agree with this. Although I know that kids at that age are tough to manage and that many of them are pretty self-centered, there was something off about her character. Perhaps it's just that the writing didn't help me out, but I felt like there was almost something disconnected about her. She didn't really engage in emotions very well, didn't really process Sarah's death well, and she was utterly obsessed with dark things. I mean, sure, some kids get a kick out of scary things, but I don't know if I've met a child that in love with ghosts and death unless they have experienced something traumatic. Perhaps I just haven't spent enough time with kids that age, though.
Flippancy aside, her reaction to Sarah's death was not believable at all. I felt Claire was a little false and mainly used for plot development.
Now that I think about it, though, I think it has to do with the fact that I never really emotionally connected with Hillary; and due to the fact that the book takes Hillary's perspective, it would make sense that I would struggle with connecting to the other characters because her words and thoughts just always felt off to me. Then again, I've only ever read this book out of the series, so I might feel differently if I read the previous books.
Personally, I could have done with less about their holiday and more exploring the Bridget/Seamus relationship, the aftermath of Bridget's and Sarah's deaths, and some more character introspection.
And less Claire! Others loved that element of the book, and the mother-daughter relationship, so I guess it's horses for courses!
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As others have mentioned, Claire seemed to be more relatable than Hillary. I am tempted to read other novels in this series to see if there is an opportunity for emotional attachment to Hillary.
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Can not agree more on this!Josephe-Anne wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 05:45 I agree that Claire provided most of the humour in the story. Her character was original and well developed.
I'm sure that many parents can identify unique traits and habits that their children display too. This makes Claire a very relatable character.