Was sending Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden a blessing or a curse?

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Nerea wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 10:30
JM Reviews wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?
He wasn't protecting them from Lucifer because both Adam and Eve joined him to rebel against God. God drove them away so that they may not eat from the tree of life and become immortal souls.
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I'll liken that act to a two edged sword. If the couple were still in the garden of Eden, the world wouldn't be as corrupt and vile as it is today. There'll still be peace, with Adam and Eve living in God's will.

On the other hand, we will not be here. And I won't be reading this from you because the couple will still be ignorant about sexuality and will not procreate. Remember, their eyes opened only when they ate of the forbidden tree which led to their dismissal from the garden.
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If you think of it like this, being sent away had to happen in order for human generation to happen. If it didn't we wouldn't be here.
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I think that they were sent out of the garden of Eden because it is important to know that actions have consequences. God wanted to test Adam and Eve’s faith and by eating from the tree of knowledge, they failed that test. They did not put their complete faith in God. They placed some of their faith in Lucifer, which indicates that they did not have a complete faith in God.
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'Man was designed to negotiate many a terrain, survive many a trial and trial during their lifetimes.' I think God removed Adam and Eve from the tree of knowledge to save and protect them so that they might learn and grow to understand the price of rebellion. I agree with Adam's point that rebellion has a price, and he had to figure out a way to pay his debt. A personal debt and then others could follow the process to pay their personal debt! In this way, God's curse to Adam and Eve is a secret blessing bestowed to them!
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In my opinion, it was both a curse and a blessing. Adam and Eve had everything in the garden but you can't appreciate the good times if you don't face hardships.🌸
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The problem with su ch is dependent upon how you believe who God is.....
if you believe for God to be all good then curse should never be a question. Because, if you consider curse then that means God is not all good...
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Adam and Eve were sent out of the garden of Eden as a consequence of the choices they made. Even with that, I think it was both a blessing and a curse but majorly a blessing.
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I think it was more of a blessing, because god has his plan for all of us and if he wanted to curse us he easily could, but why would he.
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God's main purpose was to protect the tree and to teach a lesson about obeying Him.
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JM Reviews wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 04:38 Just after Adam and Eve had eaten from the tree of knowledge, God drove them away from the Garden. The author of this book seems to justify every curse that God put on Adam. At some point, Adam seems grateful for the curses. What really captured my attention was the justification of the fact that God sent them away from Eden. Do you think the main purpose was to protect them from Lucifer? Do you believe that eating from the tree of life would have worsened the situation?
I think it was both a blessing and a curse.
It was a curse in that he literally cursed them. There were consequences to what they did and we can still feel and experience the consequences of their action that has led humanity to be cursed as a whole through Adam.
It is a blessing in that, as the author states, we would not have known our own depravity had God let things just be ignored. We would not have realized just how merciful HE is without first realizing how utterly hopeless we are without him. Guilt makes us draw closer to God and seek HIM. We might not have experienced guilt had Adam not been banished from Eden
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Adanna Inya wrote: 17 Jun 2020, 17:40 I'll liken that act to a two edged sword. If the couple were still in the garden of Eden, the world wouldn't be as corrupt and vile as it is today. There'll still be peace, with Adam and Eve living in God's will.

On the other hand, we will not be here. And I won't be reading this from you because the couple will still be ignorant about sexuality and will not procreate. Remember, their eyes opened only when they ate of the forbidden tree which led to their dismissal from the garden.
I agree with the part about it being a two-edged sword. Both a blessing and a curse. The curse is obvious while the blessing is in the lessons learnt and revelation of the wickedness of oneself vs how loving and merciful and all-powerful God is.

However, I disagree when you say that we wouldn't be here. It seems that you're implying they would not have procreated. This goes against the whole premise of God creating man. God created man and instructed him to 'be fruitful and to multiply'. I believe, as do many do, that this to procreate. In addition, Adam and Eve's ability to procreate was there even before the fall
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I haven't gotten around to reading the book, but the author seems to hold interesting views on this subject.
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In some ways Adam and Eve's sentence to exit the Garden of Eden can be seen as both a blessing and a curse. The act of sin that Eve committed by eating the forbidden fruit resulted in the shortening of man's life span, and pain for women during childbirth. So indeed that was the curse. On the other hand, by them exiting the garden, they were able to be fruitful and multiply thus replenishing the earth with humankind. To an extent, this can be considered a blessing.
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The idea that God sent Adam and Eve away in order to protect them from Lucifer is a soothing idea but may also be a far fetched one. Adam and Eve both ate from a tree that made them become more aware of themselves and even lose God’s trust. Sending them out of the garden, I think must have been God’s way of teaching consequences for wrong actions. In the event that God did not send them from the garden, I like to think that they would have wanted to leave eventually since they had become more aware of themselves, their ego and pride. I don’t think God’s decision was a curse or a blessing. I think it was an emanating consequence for Adam and Eve’s wrong-doing.
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