Is Sex really necessary?

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Bookreviwer2020 wrote: 12 Jul 2020, 18:25 I don't think it was necessary for the plot, but perhaps the author had an intention to prove with that that we did not understand entirely
That is correct. How can we know all of the author's intentions
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spencermack wrote: 12 Jul 2020, 20:40
Sushan wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 10:37 Despite all the dangers and the exhaustion from the expedition, Grant, the protagonist, finds time for sexual encounters.

Has the author depicted the true human nature? Or is this inclusion just to attract the readers who are fond of sexually explicit content? Is sexual content really necessary for fiction?
I would fall along with the idea that it is meant to drive up excitement for the reader. Too bad, it wasn't needed in the narrative.
Seemingly it was not necessary for the plot, but was necessary for the author and some of the audience
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Sushan wrote: 02 Jul 2020, 20:35
Elvis Best wrote: 02 Jul 2020, 00:53 In my opinion, the sex scenes were a distraction from what was actually happening. I found it shocking that author decided to add sex scenes. It adds up to why I felt the book dragged on for a bit too long.
If these scenes are a cause for the book to be dragging, then they are really unnecessary
I did not think the sexual content dragged out the book. On the contrary, I felt it fulfilled a part of the story
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I am finding that sexual content is a matter of reader preference and subject to that. At this point it is not even about the plot or characters or even the author
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B Creech wrote: 06 Jul 2020, 13:48
Nama Winnie wrote: 06 Jul 2020, 09:04
B Creech wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 17:35 I found it distasteful. I can't understand how it was necessary for the story. Many times, at least for me, books lose their interest because of things like overly graphic sex, violence, and profanity thrown into it. Books can be excellent reads without it!
I agree with you. Books can be great without all that. But in this case I felt like the author was illustrating the effects of the drug and more of our baser needs as humans
I'm sure you are right! I just always have a difficult time with explicit material! :D
It is allowed @B Creech. The reader is allowed anything :)
I, on the orher hand, prefer a well written scene or nothingg at all.
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TasiWin wrote: 12 Jul 2020, 22:40 I am finding that sexual content is a matter of reader preference and subject to that. At this point it is not even about the plot or characters or even the author
I'd say I agree to the fact that it's a matter of a reader's preference, how then can an author know which reader prefers the scene and which doesn't? :shifty:
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I believe sexual content is often added only to attract more readers who like such content. This book did not need it. Could have read equally well without it.
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Kelyn wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 23:28 That was one of the problems I had with the book as well. Grant was on an expedition to find his uncle, but he took the time to 'consort' with the ladies? This just doesn't jive with me. It is a detriment to the book, I believe.
I beg to differ! As much as Grant is a normal human being with reproductive enzymes like any other, there wasn't much he could have done to prevent it. Its called 'the call of nature.'
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Angatia wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 02:24
Kelyn wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 23:28 That was one of the problems I had with the book as well. Grant was on an expedition to find his uncle, but he took the time to 'consort' with the ladies? This just doesn't jive with me. It is a detriment to the book, I believe.
I beg to differ! As much as Grant is a normal human being with reproductive enzymes like any other, there wasn't much he could have done to prevent it. Its called 'the call of nature.'
I keep reading the multiple comments and opinions, I totally understand a lot of the different viewpoints but I personally also feel it is natural and happens more often than not when a group of people is together for a longer period of time.
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Leen282 wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 02:42
Angatia wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 02:24
Kelyn wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 23:28 That was one of the problems I had with the book as well. Grant was on an expedition to find his uncle, but he took the time to 'consort' with the ladies? This just doesn't jive with me. It is a detriment to the book, I believe.
I beg to differ! As much as Grant is a normal human being with reproductive enzymes like any other, there wasn't much he could have done to prevent it. Its called 'the call of nature.'
I keep reading the multiple comments and opinions, I totally understand a lot of the different viewpoints but I personally also feel it is natural and happens more often than not when a group of people is together for a longer period of time.
Let's call it ecstasy from your angle. Neither I'm I advocating Grant's actions nor campaigning for the like-minded, but just airing out my views. They say, 'when an opportunity presents itself, make use of it.'
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Unfortunately I must say that the use and abuse of sex as a resource to enrich the plot ends up being exhausting.

A good book becomes a vulgar erotic novel by well-intentioned but poorly placed lines by an author who seeks to give more complexity to the story.

When sex, regardless of its level of exposure, is present, the book changes and its tone takes on more sentimental overtones, which in several cases are not necessary. They only hinder the main plot and generate a very funny feeling of shyness in the reader. This frustrates the writer's intent and generates an atmosphere of incommodity that can end in the abandonment of reading the book.
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TasiWin wrote: 12 Jul 2020, 22:35
Sushan wrote: 02 Jul 2020, 20:35
Elvis Best wrote: 02 Jul 2020, 00:53 In my opinion, the sex scenes were a distraction from what was actually happening. I found it shocking that author decided to add sex scenes. It adds up to why I felt the book dragged on for a bit too long.
If these scenes are a cause for the book to be dragging, then they are really unnecessary
I did not think the sexual content dragged out the book. On the contrary, I felt it fulfilled a part of the story
That might be so for some readers, since it depends on how you feel personally
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Aaron Ambers wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 00:31
TasiWin wrote: 12 Jul 2020, 22:40 I am finding that sexual content is a matter of reader preference and subject to that. At this point it is not even about the plot or characters or even the author
I'd say I agree to the fact that it's a matter of a reader's preference, how then can an author know which reader prefers the scene and which doesn't? :shifty:
That is a risk to be taken from the author's end
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MrunalT wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 01:19 I believe sexual content is often added only to attract more readers who like such content. This book did not need it. Could have read equally well without it.
That might be true. Some books contain such content only to attract more audience
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Angatia wrote: 13 Jul 2020, 02:24
Kelyn wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 23:28 That was one of the problems I had with the book as well. Grant was on an expedition to find his uncle, but he took the time to 'consort' with the ladies? This just doesn't jive with me. It is a detriment to the book, I believe.
I beg to differ! As much as Grant is a normal human being with reproductive enzymes like any other, there wasn't much he could have done to prevent it. Its called 'the call of nature.'
Yes, the author has depicted it in that way, giving all the fault to the environmental facts
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